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Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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Whenever I see a skeuomorphic desktop it reminds me to make a donation to Arch.

"A skeuomorph is a derivative object that retains ornamental design cues from structures that are inherent to the original."

To my mind any icon based interface qualifies. Ready to be wrong.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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I'm running the same laptop with Manjaro and do not have any trackpad issues. So either you're right and there is some driver issue on your system or maybe it's a hardware issue. Only problem I've encountered so far is that if I unplug my usb/hdmi/ethernet hub while it's in standby then X crashes as soon as I wake it.

Thanks, I might give Manjaro a go. This is an evaluation machine for me so switching distos is not a real pain currently. Out of interest what trackpad driver does xinput report running for you? Mine is a Dell07E6. I’ve wondered about switching to the older Synaptic one.

Same.

Curiously after you asked me this I also tested my trackpad a bit more and it turns out that if I go slowly from off the trackpad onto the trackpad it doesn't register the touch at all.

Not sure if that's some kind of feature intended to prevent accidental touches or a bug. Never noticed it before in my ~7 months of use.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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If you want a no frills experience that just works, give Lubuntu a try. Of all the Linux distros I've used in my company, it's given us almost no headaches. The fonts are crisp, and icons look fine too. Adding monitors has also been painless. And even my least technical users are able to use it (but might need a bit of help now and again). For us, it has actually been a pleasure to use because of its speed. If you're…

> If you want a no frills experience that just works, give Lubuntu a try. I can't speak for the UI but Aptitude vomits broken dependencies every time you have to upgrade your distro. It made me absolutely despise package management (I'm a Windows guy) until I switched to Arch and realized a package manager that is a pleasure to work with is not an inherent oxymoron. Obviously UI is another story but at least this one…

It's hit and miss. At work I'm running a lubuntu install from 2012 that flawlessly upgraded up until now, sometimes skipping releases, sometimes not, switching desktop environment and window managers a few times along the way. Arch Linux on the other hand always has some minor breakage every now and then. Not with the package manager, but just something about the system being broken.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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Some of the comments here feel weird. Elementary OS has picked a specific niche, and its arguably the best distribution in it. It has a really well designed and consistent UI experience, and you can't break it. I think most of you just don't realize how difficult linux is for people who barely understand how to use a Mac or Windows machine. Furthermore, linux is a world where mainstream distributions still release wi…

Agree, and this is why I don't recommend Linux to anyone who isn't a techie. It's just plain ugly and that's the first thing people notice. There have been improvements and exceptions here and there, but the UI sector seems so volatile that just because current GNOME or KDE look consistent and usable, I can't expect the next iteration to be good as well.

Since starting to primarily use Linux in 2008, I've consecutively moved to simpler and simpler DEs, to the point where I'm currently running i3 everywhere for about 4 years. Less ui = fewer things to fuck up.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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Also Gnome is keyboard driven to a large degree. I used dwm/dmenu for quite a time then went back to the default DE which was Gnome and it felt similar (small screen by the way so not too many tiled windows in dwm)

Yes that’s what attracts me to Gnome too. The keyboard shortcuts are enough for me to be productive without being fully tile based. If I could just get terminal shortcuts like ctrl-w for delete word or Ctrl-m for return to work in Firefox text fields it would be perfect for me.

Open Tweaks, "Keyboard & Mouse" tab, enable Emacs Input. Now you get Ctrl-W in text fields and other shortcuts from Emacs. Doesn't quite work in Firefox though, which has a lot of conflicting shortcuts.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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Anyone tried installing this on a MacBook? I've got an older Pro that keeps running Kernel at 60%+ of CPU - apparently just one of those bugs that MacOS has that "just work" like that. I really want to install another OS, but both Ubuntu and Fedora can't see the available partition space, and can't find a wireless driver. Given that Elementary OS is advertising itself as a replacement for MacOS, has anyone tried it a…

Isn't elementary OS basically based on Ubuntu with a few ui tweaks?

I thought it was a different distro?

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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I don't think Linux will e... okay, probably ever, be a replacement for Windows or MacOS. Linux is Linux no matter how you dress it up. The first time a non-crazy person has to decompress and unpack a .tar.gz to install a program that usually comes in a .msi they're done. Forget about the fact that they'll be running down dependencies and the programs themselves don't usually work as good. What is the benefit they ge…

When was the last time you used a Linux distro? I haven't unzipped and tarred a file to compile a program in a long time. Everything you need to get on something like Ubuntu you can get from a GUI. I honestly see very little about your argument that is constructive, and in fact "It's not even Linux under the hood. It is Linux." makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Right now I'm using several different distros on a fairly regular basis (all debian based but I'd like to do an Arch Linux build just to learn more). I still have to open the command line constantly, even on Ubuntu. Just the other day I had to do a .tar.xz manually.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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Anyone tried installing this on a MacBook? I've got an older Pro that keeps running Kernel at 60%+ of CPU - apparently just one of those bugs that MacOS has that "just work" like that. I really want to install another OS, but both Ubuntu and Fedora can't see the available partition space, and can't find a wireless driver. Given that Elementary OS is advertising itself as a replacement for MacOS, has anyone tried it a…

I installed it a year or so ago on an old 2014 MBP. It's battery was bulging and bending the casing so I knew it was on its way out... I used elementary os for a few months, mostly just using it for spotify, occasional programing, surfing the web. Worked fine, and in this case, added some life to some older hardware.

cool, thanks for the info. I'll give it a try... :)

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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post #279

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Also Gnome is keyboard driven to a large degree. I used dwm/dmenu for quite a time then went back to the default DE which was Gnome and it felt similar (small screen by the way so not too many tiled windows in dwm)

Yes that’s what attracts me to Gnome too. The keyboard shortcuts are enough for me to be productive without being fully tile based. If I could just get terminal shortcuts like ctrl-w for delete word or Ctrl-m for return to work in Firefox text fields it would be perfect for me.

Ctrl+Backspace is delete word.

Re: Elementary OS – Fast, open, privacy-respecting replacement for Windows and macOS

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I don't think Linux will e... okay, probably ever, be a replacement for Windows or MacOS. Linux is Linux no matter how you dress it up. The first time a non-crazy person has to decompress and unpack a .tar.gz to install a program that usually comes in a .msi they're done. Forget about the fact that they'll be running down dependencies and the programs themselves don't usually work as good. What is the benefit they ge…

Linux in the form of Chrome OS seems to be capturing a lot of market share lately. Likewise Linux is also by no small margin what runs of most people's mobile phones or tablets. And the remaining ones run a fruity flavor of BSD. So most of what users is using is already unix and most of that is in fact Linux. MS is of course still pushing their own kernel but they seem to be insisting on that less when it comes to se…

Fair enough but this is definitely not the first project to try and make Linux easy. Without significant internal and third party resources it's still just Linux and you will still run into Linux problems, of which there are many.
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