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> I have no idea why HN still treats them like their the ethical good guy. I don't know that HN usually does. But they did buy a decent amount of publicity by (initially) telling the US government no in using the models for war.
They never did that. They said all they required was a human in the loop for kill decisions. No autonomous kill drones.
https://www.anthropic.com/news/donation-public-first-action Probably because anthropic is pouring $40 million dollars into a political pact to regulate models. And they have not been quiet about wanting to ban/regulate OSS models either. I have no idea why HN still treats them like ~their~ they are the ethical good guy. Edit: I can’t English. At least we know this came from my dumb swishy brain
They spend $40mil for lobbying, I'm sure they can also spare some millions to this place (and other places like reddit). They all do.
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NVIDIA sells the tools. The more the better it is for them. Microsoft and Meta are also-rans at this point. Their best hope of catching up is probably leveraging their infra and open models.
"leveraging their infra" is a pretty solid play, considering the scope of investments these two companies have made thus far.
What about downloading via BitTorrent etc and running on distributed networks etc?
So, say if they do "ban" open-weight models, how would that ban effectively work? Will US ISPs refuse connections to IPs of websites/servers that host those models? What about downloading via BitTorrent etc and running on distributed networks etc?
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> ...the issue is Chinese models, whether open or not, and that's what's looking to be banned... Is the US planning to invade China and take away their models? Because otherwise China is still going to have the models even if the US bans them. I don't think they're going to be going with the US position on this one.
Banned in the US, obviously, not worldwide. The problem is if the US wanted to, they actually could enforce such a ban nearly worldwide, by putting Chinese AI companies on a sanctions list and disallowing any US company (or anyone that does business with a US company, which is much of the world) from touching them.
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Human in the loop is infeasible in comms denied areas which is what we have in Ukraine/Russia right now. It's why Ukraine and Russia are now using fully autonomous drones. That's the only real solution to jamming.
Not true, fibre controlled drones are actually pretty important out there right now: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/fiber-opt...
I wonder what is happening behind closed doors for these companies to be issuing such a joint letter.
Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi. Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security. (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)
Was it applying to the program for an organization or individual? The description for the individual application page makes it sound pretty straightforward compared to getting access for an organization.
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Nvidia is subject to export restrictions on GPUs to China. So Chinese labs have responded by allowing American hosts to run their open-weight models in the US, where there are no restrictions. We see this in the EU too where Scaleway, and now Hetzner are getting into the inference host space serving Chinese open-weight models. So Nvidia benefits from more inference providers running many Chinese models that they othe…
Oh, that’s interesting. I think the general expectation was that blocking exports to China would result in companies there building their own cards competing with NVIDIA. If it has incentivized them to release open weight models instead, that seems like an unexpected win.
In the long run, perhaps, but it's a lot faster to scale up the capacity and usage of existing hardware/datacenters/grid, and even add new capacity to those, than it is to develop brand new GPU hardware and the fabrication of it.