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DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

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Re: DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

#281

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Because feeding starving children is the right thing to do.

I agree I'm not saying people can't or shouldn't donate to do that I'm saying a country with 40 trillion in debt shouldn't be spending even more money to feed people on another country when it's own citizens are struggling.

Well, DOGE and their ilk killed all those sick/starving people and managed to increase the debt somehow.

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#282

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Because we're rich and powerful and we believe the world should be a better place. It doesn't matter what other countries do. We should want to step up and help. Leaders lead.

When USAid started in 1961 there were around 100 million starving people in Africa, as of 2024 that number has tripled to over 300 million. Sure the percentage of the population that's starving has gone down some but the actual number has gone up significantly and these people are still fully reliant on others good will for their survival. Has that really made the world a better place?

This is reductionistic gibberish. If you want to understand how USAID had actually benefited the region, go read some of the actual reports and analyses on the matter.

But just to engage with your numbers (which I don't agree are fully accurate and are definitely not at all a complete picture):

Getting the rate of starvation down from 33% to 20% in an already food-stressed region that has experienced 5x population growth could be presented as an accomplishment, yes. Flip your numbers around. In 1961 200m Africans were food-secure. Today 1200m are. A billion extra properly fed people, by your (possibly bad and definitely over-simplifed) numbers.

Re: DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

#283

DOGE fired a whole bunch of NIH staff that processed high scoring grants to get them ready for Notices of Awards (the official document that starts moving funds, etc). Meanwhile, the administration now requires final approval of any grant by non NIH political staff. Consequently, Science is slowing down (and that is outside of other shenanigans). What used to take 3 months is taking 9 or more. For the many medical re…

>DOGE found an actually highly efficient Federal government For anyone that has worked on either side of government procurement it is obvious that this is not true. It's quite common for contracts to no longer make sense yet neither side wants to cancel them due to the paperwork involved. "Just put the money towards something else similar" Plus the many high profile examples like high-speed rail, rent subsidies.

And yet well known grift like corn-derived ethanol continue. Looking forward to cutting some welfare queens loose next go around!

And repossessing the fruits of successful Obama era industrial policy (Tesla & SpaceX) for the American people who paid for them too, of course.

Re: DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

#284

In the 90s, I was running out of space on my 2GB Win95 machine. I decided to delete files. But I was not ready to part with my games which were consuming the bulk of the hard drive. I noticed every application folder had those .ini files and they were everywhere. So I deleted them, and saved a few megs overall. Win win. Everything worked just fine... Until I restarted. That's doge.

Replace ini with himem.sys

"That takes up so much space!"

Worked until reboot. And thats the start of my dive into IT

Re: DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

#285

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And the Trump administration would similarly hamstring any newly created transparency organization. Not that the current congress would ever pass such a thing. And anyway, the Supreme Court has made sure that even if congress passed a law to make a(nother) government transparency agency, they can't make that agency truly independent and protected from presidential interference.

Creating an executive agency to investigate the executive would be pretty stupid. It'll likely lead to "we've investigated ourselves and found nothing", even if the president wasn't vested in all executive power, as the executive branch consolidates. However, creating an agency in the legislative branch is another story. One of the duties of the legistive is to investigate the executive, is it not? (not that this mat…

The GAO is a "legislative agency"...

Re: DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

#286

DOGE fired a whole bunch of NIH staff that processed high scoring grants to get them ready for Notices of Awards (the official document that starts moving funds, etc). Meanwhile, the administration now requires final approval of any grant by non NIH political staff. Consequently, Science is slowing down (and that is outside of other shenanigans). What used to take 3 months is taking 9 or more. For the many medical re…

>DOGE found an actually highly efficient Federal government For anyone that has worked on either side of government procurement it is obvious that this is not true. It's quite common for contracts to no longer make sense yet neither side wants to cancel them due to the paperwork involved. "Just put the money towards something else similar" Plus the many high profile examples like high-speed rail, rent subsidies.

You responded to a detailed/narrow example flagged as an example, with a reiteration of the rule.

Worse still, the lack of significant savings DOGE, indicate that the government was generally efficient.

This means that while specific cases may exist, the vigilance of the public and the set up of the US system had kept average performance in bounds.

Re: DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

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I would like to personally thank Elon, "big balls" and the rest of DOGE for causing hundreds of thousands of deaths [1] by shutting down USAID! Also an honorable for bringing the screwworm to the US. Good job everyone, you guys did it! [1] https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/usaid-shutdown-has-led-to-hund...

As a non-American, USAID was an agency heavily used by American 3-letter agencies to influence domestic matters of other nations. They should have probably been been gentler in sifting through the programs and shutting down intel operations, but they just took a big hammer to the whole agency.

Re: DOGE is done. What happened to its records?

#290

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Unfortunately I have some insights I can not will not, must not talk about. But from another perspective, the reviewers: an idiot and google is a very dangerous combination.

"Unfortunately I have some insights I can not will not, must not talk about." Lol.

It is actually a movie quote.

The bottom line is very easy: I am not looking for problems.

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