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How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.
Google is not an "AI company", they just happened to have been 10 steps ahead of everyone but slept on it for too long, now scrambling to catch up..
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All I know is internally they were recommending people use Gemini CLI until they switched to recommending Jetski/Windsurf CLI. Even before that, I could tell Jetski was way ahead, but still people from Gemini CLI were trying to convince me to use it.
Jetski/Antigravity is a better piece of software. The Gemini CLI codebase looks like someone tried to vibe-code a Claude code clone in nodeJS, as it's simply not maintainable. That being said, until recently Gemini CLI was better. It had support for persistent policies on what code could run without asking and had good extension hooks to allow you write extensions that influence policy (to perform complex logic like…
Also, Gemini CLI takes like 30-60s to start up, which is unacceptable when I'm starting it frequently in separate terminals and Jetski and Claude both start sorta instantly. I thought it must've been a dogfooding issue, but the external Gemini CLI seems just as slow. They're all similar stacks afaik, nodejs + react + ink.
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I've mostly avoided the frustration of dealing with google's product rug pulls over the years by never getting hooked on a non-gmail product. Alas, I now feel the sting of disappointment.
In this case it's the usual Google product rug-pull plus the insane rate of AI tool churn.
> The day was to begin like any other, with Antigravity open > This unexpected shift completely broke my preferred workflow it might not have been so unexpected if you knew you were one of ~15 people that start their day with Antigravity
I've become an Antigravity convert mainly because of the generous limits, especially on the Anthropic models. User since day 1.
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[citation needed] IDEs made by JetBrains are huge . At this point, they're basically the standard option for several JVM languages.
You can't expect the average person on HN to admit to using a JVM-based language. That would mean they write boring business software rather than cool ad surveillance tech.
Google made its lack of interest in Antigravity IDE obvious from very early. Updates were few and far between and app-breaking bugs stuck around, despite tons of reports. Google's lack of focus is astounding. They sprinkle random products here and there and seem to then tepidly pick the product surface that is doing least bad and then tepidly focus on that. Compare that to every other AI lab, large and small that kno…
Disclosure: I am a member of an advisory board to Google and have some insights into internal aspects as well as decisions. I really appreciate and acknowledge Google's innovations since their inception. However I am also puzzled and stunned by their bogus product decisions. As far as I can say, and this is my personal opinion, Google has a lack of what I call portfolio management. Really. At the highest level there…
So many of their products oscillate around the bar of profitability but so few reach the level of materially affecting Google’s bottom line that they can continually pop in and out of existence like subatomic particles.
Meanwhile the developers on these projects work towards their products brief moment in the sun so they can leverage it to move up and out, leaving it to die on the vine.
It’s a chaotic way to run a company, a decent way to make a living as a developer, and a shit way to build any kind of legacy, either as a company or as an individual.
Google made its lack of interest in Antigravity IDE obvious from very early. Updates were few and far between and app-breaking bugs stuck around, despite tons of reports. Google's lack of focus is astounding. They sprinkle random products here and there and seem to then tepidly pick the product surface that is doing least bad and then tepidly focus on that. Compare that to every other AI lab, large and small that kno…
Whisk is a good example. They put out a pretty slick image manipulation tool that had infinite potential, and decided to just dump it and work on Flow instead, which while similar in features has a much more cumbersome interface. They really dont learn what works well about something when shuttering it. Poor post mortem anaylsis. Whisk very much could have lived on as a parallel evolution of interface over their imag…
I guess the point is, with enough money they can afford to operate like this.
I was surprised people were so willing to jump to closed source IDEs just for access to coding agents. The trade-off you pay for tight integration between the IDE and the coding agent is lock-in because the barrier to switching IDEs is nontrivial. Your coding environment stands a lower chance of disruption when you use an open source IDE with a CLI agent. Yes it's slightly annoying to separate the agent from the IDE…
Closed source IDEs are if anything the norm: Visual Studio, Android Studio, XCode, IntelliJ, CLion, PyCharm, etc... Even in the "fancy text editor" category things like Sublime were always popular enough.
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Sometimes I wonder if they even realize they have users...
Jules is still alive. https://jules.google.com
>Paid Jules plans are accessed via a Google AI Plans subscription, which is currently available only for individual Google Accounts (ending in @gmail.com).
>We are actively working on providing upgrade paths for other user types. In the meantime, If you are a business power user and need more access to Jules, please fill out this interest form and we will get back to you.
I filled out the enterprise form for GWorkspace 18 months ago.