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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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Mounting evidence that claude max users are put into one big compute fuel pool. Demand increased dramatically with OpenAI's DoD PR snafu (even though Anth was already working with the DoD? But I digress...). The pool hit a ceiling. Anth has no compute left to give. Hence people maxing out after 1 query. "Working on it" means finding a way to distill Claude Code that isn't enough of a quality degradation to be noticed…

There's another piece of the puzzle. Dario has very clearly stated they are not taking the OpenAI approach of spending $trillion to scale right now and assume the money comes later. They are spending significantly less and working towards profitability sooner. That means they are going to be far more constrained infrastructurally than some of the competition. I think this is some of the constraints that we are seeing…

no grand strategy behind that

they're looking to IPO in 2028 vs 2030 for OpenAI, who have raised more than double the funds

so they're willing to play fast and loose with the terms and conditions of existing customers trying to make it happen

those pockets must be drying up really fast

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

Well, I wanted to understand what is this cool new tech everybody is talking about so I bought a Max plan, experimented with various setups recommended by various experts, vibe-coded a few apps and then threw it all away.

I still use more traditional approach for finding bugs and other issues in my code, but the agentic workflow doesn't give me any net value.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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I suspect many people here have tried it, but they expected it to one-shot any prompt, and when it didn't, it confirmed what they wanted to be true and they responded with "hah, see?" and then washed their hands of it. So it's not that they're too stupid. There are various motivations for this: clinging on to familiarity, resistance to what feels like yet another tool, anti-AI koolaid, earnestly underwhelmed but don'…

So what do I do differently then? Hypothetically, you have a simple slice out of bounds error because a function is getting an empty string so it does something like: `""[5]`. Opus will add a bunch of length & nil checks to "fix" this, but the actual issue is the string should never be empty. The nil checks are just papering over a deeper issue, like you probably need a schema level check for minimum string length. A…

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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

I think most people understand the need for subscriptions here. It is an ongoing massive compute cost, and that’s what you’re paying for. Your local system is not capable of running the massive amount of compute required for this. If it were then we would see more people up in arms about it.

Is this pace necessary? I feel like this is causing people to consider code to be disposable, and I think that both are a massive mistake.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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I suspect many people here have tried it, but they expected it to one-shot any prompt, and when it didn't, it confirmed what they wanted to be true and they responded with "hah, see?" and then washed their hands of it. So it's not that they're too stupid. There are various motivations for this: clinging on to familiarity, resistance to what feels like yet another tool, anti-AI koolaid, earnestly underwhelmed but don'…

So what do I do differently then? Hypothetically, you have a simple slice out of bounds error because a function is getting an empty string so it does something like: `""[5]`. Opus will add a bunch of length & nil checks to "fix" this, but the actual issue is the string should never be empty. The nil checks are just papering over a deeper issue, like you probably need a schema level check for minimum string length. A…

Always start an implementation in Claude Code plan mode. It's much more comprehensive than going straight to impl. I never read their prompt for plan mode before, but it deep-dives the code, peripheral files, callsites, documentation, existing tests, etc.

You get a better solution but also a plan file that you can review. And, also important, have another agent review. I've found that Codex is really good at reviewing plans.

I have an AGENTS.md prompt that explains that plan file review involves ranking the top findings by severity, explaining the impact, and recommending a fix to each one. And finally recommend a simpler directional pivot if one exists for the plan.

So, start the plan in Claude Code, type "Review this plan: " in Codex (or another Claude Code agent), and cycle the findings back into Claude Code to refine the plan. When the plan is updated, write "Plan updated" to the reviewer agent.

You should get much better results with this capable of much better arch-level changes rather than narrow topical solutions.

If that's still not working sufficiently for you, maybe you could use more support, like a type-system and more goals in AGENTS.md?

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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> stupid amounts for takeout Aw hell. You found my vice and my own cognitive dissonance here. If I want to truly stand by my convictions, I should probably cook more and log off. Waiting for signs that the tides are turning and that people are beginning to value a slower, more methodical approach again isn't doing anything in the current moment to stave off the genuine feelings of dread that have honestly led to some…

Stand strong. Plenty of us working towards healthy offline communities.

Thanks friend. I really appreciate that. This is genuinely hard right now.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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> I get it. LLMs are cool technology. I don't think many of you have legitimately tried Claude Code, or maybe you're holding it wrong. I'm getting 10x the work done. I'm operating at all layers of the stack with a speed and rapidity I've never had before. And before anyone accuses me of being some "vibe coder", I've built five nines active-active money rails that move billions of dollars a day at 50kqps+, amongst lot…

I use Claude Code a lot, but I don't understand these "I'm doing 10X the work" comments. I spend a lot of time reviewing any code that comes out of Claude Code. Even using Opus 4.6 with max effort there is almost always something that needs to be changed, often dramatically. I can see how people go down the path of thinking "Wow, this code compiles and passes my tests! Ship it!" and start handing trust over to Opus,…

I find that it's relative to the amount of planning time you spend... I feel like I've gotten around 5x the output while using Claude Code w/ Opus over what I will get done myself... That said, I'm probably spending about 3x as much time planning as I would when just straight coding for/by myself. And that's generally the difference.

I can use the agent to scaffold a lot of test/demo frameworks around the pieces I'm working on pretty cleanly and have the agent fill in. I still spend a lot of time validating the tests and the code being completed though.

The errors I tend to get from the agent are roughly similar to what I might see from a developer/team that works remotely... you still need to verify. The difference is the turn around seems to be minutes over days. You're also able to observe over simply review... When I see a bad path, I can usually abort/cancel, revert back to the last commit and try again with more planning.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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People will always go along with a removal of friction even against their benefit. It's natural bias, we have a preference for not spending energy. It's why we pay stupid amounts for takeout when it's a button away, it's why we accept the issues that come with online dating rather than breaking the ice outside, it's why there's been decades scams that claim to get you abs without effort... LLMs are the ultimate frict…

> stupid amounts for takeout Aw hell. You found my vice and my own cognitive dissonance here. If I want to truly stand by my convictions, I should probably cook more and log off. Waiting for signs that the tides are turning and that people are beginning to value a slower, more methodical approach again isn't doing anything in the current moment to stave off the genuine feelings of dread that have honestly led to some…

Think that you're likely average!

By which I mean, it's likely you're not the only one feeling that dread. We're due for a counter movement, and it's a matter of time to see it flower.

Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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If I were to go off into the woods, take a lot of drugs, and write my own crank manifesto, the central conceit would be that ADHD is the key to understanding the entirety of Silicon Valley. A bunch of people with stimulus driven brains creating technologies that feed themselves and the rest of the populace more and more stimulation, setting a new baseline and requiring new technologies for higher levels of stimulatio…

No, you're right. But a million monkeys on cocaine may eventually provide value to shareholders.

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Re: Claude Code login fails with OAuth timeout on Windows

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As much as people on Hacker News complain about subscription models for productivity and creativity suites, the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in. I get it. LLMs are cool technology. Is this a symptom of the same phenomenon behind the deluge of disposable JavaScript fram…

> the open arms embrace of subscription development tools (services, really) which seek to offload the very act itself makes me wonder how and why so many people are eager to dive right in

Here's a reason not in your list.

Short version: A kind of peer pressure, but from above. In some circles I'm told a developer must have AI skills on their resume now, and those probably need to be with well known subscription services, or they substantially reduce their employment prospects.

Multiple people I know who are employers have recently, without prompting, told me they no longer hire developers who don't use AI in their workflow.

One of them told me all the employers they know think "seniors" fall into two camps, those who are embracing AI and therefore nimble and adaptive, and those who are avoiding it and therefore too backward-looking, stuck-in-their-ways to be a good hire for the future. So if they don't see signs of AI usage on a senior dev's resume now, that's an automatic discard. For devs I know laid off from an R&D company where AI was not permitted for development (for IP/confidentiality reasons), that's unfair as they were certainly not backward-looking people, but the market is not fair.

Another "business leader" employer I met recently told me his devs are divided into those who are embracing AI and those who aren't, said he finds software feature development "so slow!", and said if it wasn't for employment law he'd fire all his devs who aren't choosing to use AI. I assume he was joking, but it was interesting to hear it said out loud without prompting.

I've been to several business leadership type meetups in recent months, and it seems to be simply assumed that everyone is using AI for almost everything worth talking about. I don't think they really are, so it's interesting to watch that narrative playing out.

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