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How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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It makes sense. And Google is its own way to name all AI products “Gemini”.

Probably will use other astrology terms. Like the way android is named for desserts.

It most certainly isn't astrology that was on Google's mind when they decided for Gemini.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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The only Microsoft products I’ve actively heard people desire within the last 5 years are VSCode and Excel. Microsoft have so severely damaged their brand that they’ve finally shed the image of oddly gray Dell midtowers running XP on Pentium 4.

Windows is still the king for gaming. Word is better than Google Docs for anything but the absolute basics[0].

But as a professional, it has no further use.

[0]: Please tell me how I add a new paragraph style in Docs?

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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I don’t use windows, so most of this doesn’t affect me, but I do use GitHub and VSCode. Can anyone clarify, once and for all, whether “GitHub Copilot” and “VSCode Copilot” (sic?) are the same product? The documentation isn’t even clear, and it’s important because it affects billing. How do these two products interact and where do they NOT overlap? This confusion even bleeds into other coding harnesses. I have no idea…

Tldr yes they're the same agentic harness in different UIs. Web browser, android app, ide extension, cli tool. They all change the "how" but not the "what". You buy premium you get more prompts and models.

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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A "Windows subsystem" is a specific interface between user-mode applications and the Windows kernel. It's a technical notion that exists in Windows. So there are different Windows subsystems for different types of applications. The naming convention is "Windows subsystem for ". It makes more sense when you read it as "Windows subsystem for [running] Linux [applications]". WSL2 deviates from the native concept of what…

This, and it may have also been a legal thing. " Product for Third-Party OS " has been accepted as a descriptive use of a third-party trademark for decades, requiring only proper attribution rather than a license, whereas marketing a product that didn't even originally use the Linux kernel as a "Linux Subsystem" might have been considered riskier by Microsoft's lawyers in spite of the nonstandard use of the former.

It could be even more simple. Microsoft would want to their own product, Windows, to come before Linux in the name.

I read through the brand guidelines where I work, and we have a similar stipulation. Maybe there is some law mixed in there, but from a pure branding play, a company will never want to put someone else first.

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The only Microsoft products I’ve actively heard people desire within the last 5 years are VSCode and Excel. Microsoft have so severely damaged their brand that they’ve finally shed the image of oddly gray Dell midtowers running XP on Pentium 4.

Not sure if it qualifies as a "product", but .NET is (these days) uncharacteristic for Microsoft as well. It's community-driven, very active, and quite liked by the people who use it.

Somewhat more niche, I'd also add Access to the list. There is worryingly little development going on these days, but after all these decades there is no other product who came even remotely close to its quality. For quick local RDB stuff and some RAD, nothing is as quick and reliable. I still use it for all of my personal collection tracking, data modeling and prototyping for hobby projects, etc. The speed at which I can set up and adjust is unreal. I appreciate that LibreOffice are giving it a try with Base, but every time I try it, it takes me about 2 minutes until I find a basic, essential feature that's severely broken. (I guess I know which project I should start contributing to if I ever got into the mindset of doing some open-source work.)

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Copilot Copilot Copilot Copilot

Copilot copilots Copilot copilots copilot copilot Copilot copilots

I just woke up, please for the love of ai slop, stop before you break my definition of the word copilot!

(Fun fact: If you repeat a word sufficiently, it will lose its meaning..)

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Microsoft has always seemed to be a little chaotic and buggy in everything it did, but it was always dominant and assertive. Recently it seems like they might be about to do the impossible and throw away that market position - their cloud is imploding, they all but gave up on their AI goals, apparently the Windows UI is designed now by employees who use Macs so never use their own dog food, and while I don't believe…

gaming too I guess still

This won’t last for long too. Valve with SteamDeck and apparent future release of SteamMachine/SteamOS is preparing users for Linux gaming

Re: How many products does Microsoft have named 'Copilot'?

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Ignoring the disaster that is their branding/naming. Copilot is _amazing_. Everyone is hyping about Claude, but I'm way more productive with the copilot cli. The copilot cloud agent is great, and copilot code review is great (we also tried the new very expensive claude code review - it was slow and expensive). Forget that it's Microsoft, forget that everything is Copilot and go and give it a shot.

At work, they gave everyone a GitHub Copilot license whether they wanted one or not, which meant it started spewing nonsense on all our PRs. (I had them remove my license again.) I don't use LLMs, but a coworker who does said that Copilot was one of the worst of the lot.

I find the differences between the CLIs pretty minor. GitHub and Kiro are the only ones allowed at my job, and GitHub is fine.

What many people who don't use the GitHub Copilot CLI don't seem to be aware of is that it's not limited to GPT models. I mostly use it with Gemini and Opus, for instance.

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