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I still judge parents, because I compare them to other parents. Good parents = kids not 100% glued to phones/tablets, social around friends and family, not throwing tantrums at 8-16 yrs old. Bad parents = kids always throwing tantrums, kids basically always getting their way because they've learned parents will always give in, parents and kids 100% ignoring each other. One set of friends - I go to visit, I play with…
Trust me. Don’t judge. Even if you compare to other parents, you are judging the reference-parents. If you have data over time you can draw conclusions on things you want to try as a parent.
Having Kids (2019)
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Re: Having Kids (2019)
#282Before kids it was easy to judge bad parents. Then one day with child I found myself due to circumstances in a store way past my child’s bedtime. She was screaming and crying, because it was way past her bedtime. Then I realized… I was now “the bad parent” I had so easily judged. Then it was easy to judge parents with children younger than mine. Until I learned that not all children have the same issues in the same o…
I still judge parents, because I compare them to other parents. Good parents = kids not 100% glued to phones/tablets, social around friends and family, not throwing tantrums at 8-16 yrs old. Bad parents = kids always throwing tantrums, kids basically always getting their way because they've learned parents will always give in, parents and kids 100% ignoring each other. One set of friends - I go to visit, I play with…
My parents always tried to make me socialize, tried to unglue me from videogame/PC when I was a teenager, etc
Turns out I was always an introverted prick.
Re: Having Kids (2019)
#283Before kids it was easy to judge bad parents. Then one day with child I found myself due to circumstances in a store way past my child’s bedtime. She was screaming and crying, because it was way past her bedtime. Then I realized… I was now “the bad parent” I had so easily judged. Then it was easy to judge parents with children younger than mine. Until I learned that not all children have the same issues in the same o…
Re: Having Kids (2019)
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
I still judge parents, because I compare them to other parents. Good parents = kids not 100% glued to phones/tablets, social around friends and family, not throwing tantrums at 8-16 yrs old. Bad parents = kids always throwing tantrums, kids basically always getting their way because they've learned parents will always give in, parents and kids 100% ignoring each other. One set of friends - I go to visit, I play with…
Sometimes it's entirely on the kids. My parents always tried to make me socialize, tried to unglue me from videogame/PC when I was a teenager, etc Turns out I was always an introverted prick.
Re: Having Kids (2019)
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sometimes it's entirely on the kids. My parents always tried to make me socialize, tried to unglue me from videogame/PC when I was a teenager, etc Turns out I was always an introverted prick.
Consider how bad it would have been for you/would be for you right now had they not even tried though. Impossible to "what if" the situation now but I'm sure the effort will have made at least some difference.
I am just saying that anyone would have judged them poorly if they saw me spending a sunny Saturday glued to my SNES playing Romance of The Three Kingdoms IV, or going for yet another playthrough of Diablo on the PC.
Re: Having Kids (2019)
#286One of the most challenging aspects of being a parent (at least for me) is dealing with the kids not interested in cooperating or listening/learning. Their mother and I spent a great deal on music lessons and it was a challenge to get them to practice, and I was unable to coerce them to practice so they could reap the rewards of being able to create music themselves. And just in general, giving guidance and seeing th…
> One of the most challenging aspects of being a parent (at least for me) is dealing with the kids not interested in cooperating or listening/learning. > And just in general, giving guidance and seeing that look on their faces that means they're just waiting for you to stop talking so they can go on with their lives. Instead of seeing this as a challenge perhaps reflect on it and take it as an opportunity to learn mo…
Re: Having Kids (2019)
#287Such a corny take. People should have kids when they know for sure they want to become parents. If they are unsure because the life they want for themselves seems incompatible, then it becomes a gamble. So many miserable parents out there who hide their experiences because they are afraid of social punishment or because they need to convince themselves that this permanent life-altering decision was the right one. Tha…
Do you honestly think those miserable parents stay miserable for the long term or might that be a temporary bump in the ride?
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Dunno, I didn't judge before having a kid. After having a kid, it's 100x easier than people made it out to be and it's hard not to judge.
Maybe your kid is easier than most.. I would not generalize
Parents flex for children because there's a lot of things we don't care about. Little Timmy wants to go first? That's fine. But now introduce Little Jane. Little Timmy can't always go first. Now he has to contend with Little Jane.
Turn taking is the standard here. Doing it at preschool is one thing, but in every day life, at home, from sunrise to sunset, when tired or sick, is another thing. There's also lots of corner cases to navigate. What if Little Jane wants to watch something that scares Little Timmy? What if Little Timmy missed a turn because he had soccer practice? And so on.
You also aren't in control of all turns. For example, birthday parties. Or frequency of seeing friends. What is seen as unfair parts of life by an 8 year old can be completely out of your control.
You can oftentimes rely on the older one being a little more flexible than the younger one, and that is a life saver. As a parent you can lean on it and reason with them. But there is a scenario where this falls apart: twins. Congratulations, have fun reasoning with two 1.5 year olds who want opposing things.
The corner cases from taking turns can get easier as they get older though. I usually offload it to them: you guys figure out whats fair, everyone has to agree, let me know when you figure it out. This can degenerate into the most stubborn winning though, so I still have to monitor the results and stop relying on it if that's what is happening.
I dunno, it feels kinda exhausting for being easy.
Re: Having Kids (2019)
#289Before kids it was easy to judge bad parents. Then one day with child I found myself due to circumstances in a store way past my child’s bedtime. She was screaming and crying, because it was way past her bedtime. Then I realized… I was now “the bad parent” I had so easily judged. Then it was easy to judge parents with children younger than mine. Until I learned that not all children have the same issues in the same o…
I will continue to judge my parents for abusing me throughout childhood until doing so no longer contributes to my own healing. There is no single right way to respond to a hyperactive child but there are plenty of permanently life-altering ones.
Resentment is a poison willingly retained; I hope you find healing some day in letting go of those memories
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I don't mean to inject politics, but there's a huge mental burden on fathers with more conservative values that take their role seriously. Unfortunately, there's no way to elaborate what I mean on HN or much of the web without stirring up a ton of pointless argument. People will just get defensive and refuse to consider perspectives they can't agree with.
That huge mental burden is entirely self-inflicted, though. It's not a fair comparison to the physical burden that is unavoidable. Growing up in a more conservative society, I've seen many people with that parenting style, who often pop a proverbial blood vessel trying to ensure that their children are more like army cadets that perfectly reflect their worldviews and don't take an unapproved step in any direction. Th…