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Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by fc417fc802 »

auggierose wrote: post #278
fc417fc802 wrote: post #264

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> Ideally, that's how it is for all papers, but it isn't We require a method of filtering such that a given researcher doesn't have to personally vet in excruciating detail every paper he comes across because there simply isn't enough time in the day for that. Ideally such a system would individually for each paper provide a multi-dimensional score that was reputable. How can those be calculated in a manner such that…

> We require a method of filtering such that a given researcher doesn't have to personally vet in excruciating detail every paper he comes across because there simply isn't enough time in the day for that. We do require such a method. Isn't that what AI is for? Strictly working as a filter. You still need to personally vet in excruciating detail every paper you rely on for your work.

Maybe. I think that's still experimental and far too resource intensive to do on an individual basis. However an intensive LLM review performed by a centralized service once per paper as a sort of independent literature watchdog would likely be of value. I haven't heard of such a thing yet though.

Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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bonoboTP wrote: post #79
freehorse wrote: post #38

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Well, technically, it can also compile your tex file if you upload the tex file instead of the pdf directly, which helps a lot in standardizing the stylistic structure between preprints. Most other repositories are wild west and inconsistent. I really appreciate the similarity in style applied to most preprints there. Moreover, this means you can also download not just the pdf, but the source tex file to, which can b…

The similarity in style comes from conference and journal templates, not from Arxiv. You can style your paper with latex in any style, Arxiv doesn't care. On Arxiv you mostly see preprints that people submit to conferences and journals and they enforce the style.

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Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by jruohonen »

auggierose wrote: post #37
mastermage wrote: post #29

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Zenodo is more for IT Papers and also datasets isn't it?

It can host large datasets as well, yes. It is hosted by CERN, so it is not specifically IT in any way. It also allows you to restrict access to the files of your submission. It has no requirements to submit your LaTeX sources, any PDF will be fine. There are also no restrictions on who can publish. You'll get a DOI, of course. Everything published on arXiv could also be published on Zenodo, but not the other way aro…

Zenodo is great too, yes, but their meta-data management is somewhat problematic; i.e., it can be changed at whim, which makes indexing difficult.

Re: ArXiv declares independence from Cornell

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Post by thienannguyencv »

frankling_ wrote: post #40

The recent announcement to reject review articles and position papers already smelled like a shift towards a more "opinionated" stance, and this move smells worse. The vacuum that arXiv originally filled was one of a glorified PDF hosting service with just enough of a reputation to allow some preprints to be cited in a formally published paper, and with just enough moderation to not devolve into spam and chaos. It ha…

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Post by weitendorf »

kingstnap wrote: post #127
Hendrikto wrote: post #95

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For anybody outside the SV, and especially outside the US, this seems high, yes. arXiv does not need to and should not optimize for “shareholder value”, which is at least nominally the justification for outlandish CEO pay packages.

arXiv doesn't need much. All they do is host static pdfs uploaded by someone else with free CDN services from Fastly [0]. I'm sure they could get academics to volunteer moderation services as well. In reality you could host the entire thing for well under $50k/year in hardware and storage if someone else is providing a free CDN. Their costs could be incredibly low. But just like Wikipedia I see them very likely very…

> In reality you could host the entire thing for well under $50k/year in hardware

I could pay Anthropic $400 to write more code than you have in your entire lifetime.

Sure, you're able to operate a website acting as essentially the most important and highest volume venue for sharing academic research in the world, but come on, why couldn't I just ask Claude Code or some web developer in a foreign country to do the same thing?

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Post by groundzeros2015 »

StableAlkyne wrote: post #190
groundzeros2015 wrote: post #141

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That’s true. But that’s separate than the use in ML in Blockchain circles as a form of a marketing - using academic appearances.

Every field and every publisher has this issue though. I've read papers in the chemical literature that were clearly thinly veiled case studies for whatever instrument or software the authors were selling. Hell, I've read papers that had interesting results, only to dig into the math and find something fundamentally wrong. The worst was an incorrect CFD equation that I traced through a telephone game of 4 papers only…

I completely agree. Sophisticated marketing campaigns include academic literature to bikini clad women.

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Post by mort96 »

snovymgodym wrote: post #215
mort96 wrote: post #82

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Salaries in the US are so bonkers. Everywhere else outside of the US, $300,000 is an outlandish high salary. To call it "mid to high" is insane.

It's frankly not that crazy of a salary for an important executive position. The city manager of a small city in Texas gets paid around that much and that's taxpayer money. Now what collegiate football coaches are paid, that's pretty crazy.

I didn't say it's a crazy salary for an important executive position, I said it's wild to call it a "mid-high engineering salary"

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Post by mitthrowaway2 »

auggierose wrote: post #276
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #269

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Can't we do better than that? PageRank was a decent solution for websites. Can't we treat citations as a graph, calculate per-author and per-paper trustworthiness scores, update when a paper gets retracted, and mix in a dash of HN-style community upvotes/downvotes and openly-viewable commentary and Q&A by a community of experts and nonexperts alike?

You know that is what PageRank was originally for, right?

Sure. In that case I guess I'm just waiting for a couple of college kids in a garage to start a website that actually uses it for its intended purpose, so that we can finally deprecate PrestigiousPrivateJournalRank.

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Post by Supermancho »

ryukoposting wrote: post #194
mort96 wrote: post #82

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Salaries in the US are so bonkers. Everywhere else outside of the US, $300,000 is an outlandish high salary. To call it "mid to high" is insane.

Silicon Valley is the only place in the United States where $300K is even close to the "middle" of anything. I just moved to SV a few months ago from the Midwest (and not a particularly cheap part of it). Telling my coworkers who aren't from the US what a house costs in Wisconsin, you'd have thought I was the one who moved from a foreign country.

As a datapoint, I get paid just under 250k/yr and I'm an above average developer in his very late career, at a midwest company. 300k avg for SV is about right.

The local college and medical administrators are the ones that own the mansions in my city. I have a family, house and mortgage plus my large medical expenses (cardiac) I can handle...until I cant.

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