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I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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What does xAI's future as a defense contractor AI company look like after the 2028 presidential election?

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There was already a Democrat that beat Trump once. And looking at the past elections, it looks like the US elections are currently in a pendulum where the balance of power just swings back and forth.

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Good. I'd rather not have my favorite AI from a company working on AGI to have murder and spying in it's DNA. In fact, as a patriotic American veteran, I'd be ok with Anthropic moving to Europe. It might be better for Claude and AGI, which are overriding issues for me. Rutger Bregman @rcbregman This is a huge opportunity for Europe. Welcome Anthropic with open arms. Roll out the red carpet. Visa for all employees. Eu…

AGI? My guy, it's a text predictor slot machine. Very useful tool but will never be AGI.

Map problems to slot machines, guess enough slots and you're indistinguishable from GI.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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There were two red lines, as I understand it -- first, automated kill bots, and second, mass surveillance.

Neither of those red lines should be controversial. What American citizen thinks terminators and Big Brother are desirable?

MAGA (as long as the terminators are pointed towards the other side)

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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I am fine with this. If you are a defense contractor, you are a defense contractor, and you follow the military needs that you government believes are necessary - or you stop being a defense contractor.

I wouldn't want a bullet manufacturer to hold back on my government based on their own internal sense of ethics (whether I agreed with it or not, it's not their place)

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> Anthropic's two hard lines: > 1. No mass domestic surveillance of Americans > 2. No fully autonomous weapons (kill decisions without a human in the loop) Surveillance takes place with or without Anthropic, so depriving DoW of Anthropic models doesn't accomplish much (although it does annoy Hegseth). The models currently used in kill decisions are probably primitive image recognition (using neural nets). Consider a…

I thought Anthropic's take on #2 was they don't think the model's good enough yet?

But compared to what - if Anthropic's models aren't perfect but still better than existing (old school) models, it's understandable DoW still wants to use them (since they're potentially the best available, despite imperfections). I think Hegseth is saying to Anthropic: "that's our call, not yours".

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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The disconnect here for me is, I assume the DoW and Anthropic signed a contract at some point and that contract most likely stipulated that these are the things they can do and these are the things they can't do. I would assume the original terms the DoW is now railing against were in those original contracts that they signed. In that case it looks like the DoW is acting in bad faith here, they signed the original co…

I don't believe they can change the name to Department of War without an actor Congress. It remains the DoD.

It's a silly shibboleth, but I automatically ignore anyone who calls it the Department of War or Gulf of America. Hasn't steered me wrong yet. They're telling me they're the kind of people who only care about defending fascism.

Re: I am directing the Department of War to designate Anthropic a supply-chain risk

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I got downvoted for this in the other thread, but this is basically an attempt at bankrupting Anthropic. No US company has ever been designated a supply chain risk, and the foreign companies that are on that list are now doing 0 business in the US. Very large portion of the US economy relies on some contracts with the US government, Anthropic cannot survive this if this holds.

I don't think it will hold, in the end this is mafia behavior, but if it does, we are yet again in uncharted waters.

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"They have threatened to remove us from their systems if we maintain these safeguards; they have also threatened to designate us a “supply chain risk”—a label reserved for US adversaries, never before applied to an American company—and to invoke the Defense Production Act to force the safeguards’ removal. These latter two threats are inherently contradictory: one labels us a security risk; the other labels Claude as…

The real question we should be asking is what others HAVE agreed to. Has OpenAI just agreed to let the government go crazy with their models?

> Altman says OpenAI agrees with Anthropic’s red lines in Pentagon dispute

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5758898-altman-backs-a...

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