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Post by casey2 »

piker wrote: post #262
rgbrenner wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the security risk wasnt taken by OpenClaw. Releasing vulnerable software that users run on their own machines isn't going to compromise OpenClaw itself. It can still deliver value for it's users while also requiring those same users to handle the insecurity of the software themselves (by either ignoring it or setting up sandboxes, etc to reduce the risk, and then maybe that reduced risk is weighed against the nov…

You should join the tobacco lobby! Genius!

Oh please, why equate IT BS with cancer? If the null pointer was a billion dollar mistake, then C was a trillion dollar invention.

At this scale of investment countries will have no problem cheapening the value of human life. It's part and parcel of living through another industrial revolution.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by paulryanrogers »

jnaina wrote: post #250

Damn. I just installed OpenClaw on my M2 Mac and hopped on a plane for our SKO in LAX. United delayed the plane departure by 2 hours (of course) and diverted the flight to Honolulu. And Claw (that's the name of my new AI agent) kept me updated on my rebooking options and new terminal/gate assignments in SFO. All through the free WhatsApp access on United. AND, it refactored all my transferred Python code, built a gra…

Did you ask OpenClaw to do all those things? If not did you want it to do all of them?

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by vkou »

project2501a wrote: post #274
DrewADesign wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should give your gut instinct more credit. The tech world has gotten a false sense of security from the big SaaS platforms running everything that make the nitty gritty security details disappear in a seamless user experience, and that includes LLM chatbot providers. Even open source development libraries with exposure to the wild are so heavily scrutinized and well-honed that it’s easy even for people li…

Totally agree. And the fact that the author says > What I want is to change the world, not build a large company and teaming up with OpenAI is the fastest way to bring this to everyone. do no not make me feel all warm and fuzzy: Yeah, changing the world with Tiel's money. Try joining a union instead.

Change the world into what? Techno-feudalism?

Ever since I was four, I've dreamed of doing my part to bring that about.

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Post by antod »

jnaina wrote: post #250

Damn. I just installed OpenClaw on my M2 Mac and hopped on a plane for our SKO in LAX. United delayed the plane departure by 2 hours (of course) and diverted the flight to Honolulu. And Claw (that's the name of my new AI agent) kept me updated on my rebooking options and new terminal/gate assignments in SFO. All through the free WhatsApp access on United. AND, it refactored all my transferred Python code, built a gra…

> The future is both amazing and shitty

I feel like we're living in one of those breathless futurist interviews from a 1994 issue of Wired mag.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by _heimdall »

socialcommenter wrote: post #279
rgbrenner wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But the security risk wasnt taken by OpenClaw. Releasing vulnerable software that users run on their own machines isn't going to compromise OpenClaw itself. It can still deliver value for it's users while also requiring those same users to handle the insecurity of the software themselves (by either ignoring it or setting up sandboxes, etc to reduce the risk, and then maybe that reduced risk is weighed against the nov…

This argument has the same obvious flaws as the anti-mask/anti-vax movement (which unfortunately means there will always be a fringe that don't care). These things are allowed to interact with the outside world, it's not as simple as "users can blow their own system up, it's their responsibility". I don't need to think hard to speculate on what might go wrong here - will it answer spam emails sincerely? Start cancell…

At least during the Covid response, your concerns over anti-mask and anti-vaccine issues seem unwarranted.

The claims being shared by officials at the time was that anyone vaccinated was immune and couldn't catch it. Claims were similarly made that we needed roughly 60% vaccination rate to reach herd immunity. With that precedent being set it shouldn't matter whether one person chose not to mask up or get the jab, most everyone else could do so to fully protect themselves and those who can't would only be at risk if more than 40% of the population weren't onboard with the masking and vaccination protocols.

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Post by bhadass »

EastSmith wrote: post #6

With OpenClaw we are seeing how the app layer becomes as important as the model layer. You can switch models multiple times (online/proprietary, open weight, local), but you have one UI : OpenClaw.

openclaw is just one of many now, there are new ones weekly.

Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by beepbooptheory »

rkunnamp wrote: post #265

I really hope Mario and Armin also gets poached The real gem inside OpenClaw is pi, the agent, created by Mario Zechner. Pi is by far the best agent framework in the world. Most extensible, with the best primitives. . Armin Ronacher , creator of flask , can go deep and make something like openclaw enterprise ready. The value of Peter is in connecting the dots, thinking from users perspective, and bringing business pe…

What does "enterprise ready" mean in this context?

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Post by shimman »

nmar3 wrote: post #248
fny wrote: post #227

I really hope Mario who wrote the engine that powers OpenClaw[0] gets spoils as well. OpenClaw is mostly a shell around this (ha!), and I've always been annoyed OpenClaw never credited those repos openly. The pi agent repos are a joy to read, are 1/100th the size of OpenClaw, and have 95% of the functionality. [0]: https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono

> Special thanks to Mario Zechner for his support and for pi-mono. Special thanks to Adam Doppelt for lobster.bot. https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw?tab=readme-ov-file#comm...

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Re: I’m joining OpenAI

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Post by jnaina »

antod wrote: post #284
jnaina wrote: post #250

Damn. I just installed OpenClaw on my M2 Mac and hopped on a plane for our SKO in LAX. United delayed the plane departure by 2 hours (of course) and diverted the flight to Honolulu. And Claw (that's the name of my new AI agent) kept me updated on my rebooking options and new terminal/gate assignments in SFO. All through the free WhatsApp access on United. AND, it refactored all my transferred Python code, built a gra…

> The future is both amazing and shitty I feel like we're living in one of those breathless futurist interviews from a 1994 issue of Wired mag.

No, I'm not William Gibson. Swear to god.
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