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America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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No one sells $4 lunch bowls in the US because no one wants to work for minimum wage for 12 hours a day. The article makes it seem like a great idea, but people in Japan who run these stores work like dogs and live in poverty for their whole lives.

Does the US really lack cheap easily exploitable labor? What about Uber taxi drivers?

McDonald’s starts out at $14 an hour in my lowish cost of living area, so that’s the floor.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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In the US per official data ~5% have more than one job (and that includes lawyers doing consultancy for example) https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12026620

So that would mean 1 in 10 families that are affected on average. Seems like a lot.

Hmm… 1 in 20 individuals are affected… I get the idea being 2 adults per family, one of them affected, hence 1 in 10 families, but I think its incorrect/misleading (potentially in either direction) to say 1 in 10 families. I haven't looked at the data about how many families are single parent (which could increase the impact per family) OR how many of those 5% identified as working multiple jobs are married (I wouldn't be surprised if more of them are unmarried, since a two parent family with both working one job might be expected to not need the additional jobs).

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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They never change their minds, that's because the police are willing to beat the protesters for them. The Civil Rights movement is an example of (mostly, but not always peaceful) protest that changed things within living memory. Gay rights advances in recent decades definitely owe a lot to demonstrations and public organizing that put the issues into public conversation. Women's suffrage movements also featured many…

Politicians are like ROM. You can't change them once they are programmed. If you want a different function, you need to swap them out. Yelling in the street is not going to get you anywhere. The reason Civil Rights, Gay Rights and so on got traction was not through protestors changing politicians' minds. It was through the masses changing their minds and actually going to the ballot boxes to replace their (essentiall…

It was also through the violent actions of terrorist groups that police couldn't keep under control. For every time the politicians agreed with a Rosa Parks, it was because they were afraid of a Black Panthers.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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There's a massive difference between "will be in a place for 3-4 years maximum, then leaving" vs "has been in a place for 3-4 years but is planning on staying permanently." In the former case their interests are going to be short-term and might not align with long-term residences. Per your example, university students would vote against allocating funds toward schools or playgrounds, because they know they're not goi…

A city isn't just for the long-term residents. It must serve short term residents too. Those interests must be represented. In the US, people get to vote where they live. We used to require silly things like owning land or being male or being white, but that was a really bad idea. It is not debatable at all if short term residents should had the same voting rights as long term residents. It is very settled constituti…

> It is not debatable at all if short term residents should had the same voting rights as long term residents. It is very settled constitutional law in the US, and a completely radical idea to suggest changing a principle that has been fundamental for the period of time when the US has been a strong country.

Sorry what? Only US Citizens are legally allowed to vote in federal and state elections. This explicitly excludes a vast swarth of short-term residents who are there on school visas, work visas, or permanent residents who haven't gotten citizenship yet.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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if you are going to have a rebuttal, at least give a little bit why my take is lazy analysis. (and i'm aware your argument exists, and it's also wrong!)

* regulatory barriers to increasing supply lead to less supply * less supply (at the same demand) leads to higher market clearing prices really not complicated

also not complicated: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46647791

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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No, it's actually nothing like us. It's also annoying and insulting that we have to be the symbol for every victim of anything. Black Americans are not nomads. We're forced out by them.

I’m not talking about nomads. I’m talking about people who live there for years, sometimes decades

What exactly is your current legal status in Amsterdam and the Netherlands/EU?

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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post #284

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A city isn't just for the long-term residents. It must serve short term residents too. Those interests must be represented. In the US, people get to vote where they live. We used to require silly things like owning land or being male or being white, but that was a really bad idea. It is not debatable at all if short term residents should had the same voting rights as long term residents. It is very settled constituti…

> It is not debatable at all if short term residents should had the same voting rights as long term residents. It is very settled constitutional law in the US, and a completely radical idea to suggest changing a principle that has been fundamental for the period of time when the US has been a strong country. Sorry what? Only US Citizens are legally allowed to vote in federal and state elections. This explicitly exclu…

OMG, I am so sorry, I misread "country" as "county" and have been talking past you this entire time! Apologies!

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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I serve as a planning commissioner for my city, and my city just recently tried to overhaul our zoning code to allow for more affordability and better economic outcomes for our citizens and future as a city. Here is what I have learned: In the US, few people participate or care about local laws, zoning, and elections, or even understand why participation may be important. In a citizen ballot to determine if we should…

Some politician in Japan pushed zoning away from cities up to the prefecture and national level. So locals do not get veto rights over new construction.

That statement reminds me of ikiru.

(an akira kurosawa movie about a japanese politician)

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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Some politician in Japan pushed zoning away from cities up to the prefecture and national level. So locals do not get veto rights over new construction.

My state did something similar recently as well for land within a quarter mile of transit, they have to be zoned for a minimum number of housing units, and parking minimums cannot be enforced in that radius. Some of the municipalities impacted are suing the state.

I wonder if this just means they will eliminate transit or move stations/stops/routes around.

Re: America could have $4 lunch bowls like Japan but for zoning laws

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I met a japanese woman who did something along these lines.

She was a VP for a high-tech company in japan. But at some point she decided to slow down.

She opened a small bakery. She told me a lot of it is easier than it looks. She has a second "family" now, customers that come every day. I think she sells small meals to go too. If she wants to take the day off, she just closes the store for the day.

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