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I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Post by deafpolygon »

grues-dinner wrote: post #190
wvenable wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the latest product seems good, buy it. If not, don’t. There is another aspect to this though. As a user of an ecosystem, you're committed in many ways. As Apple or Microsoft or Google releases a new version of their operating system you're going to run that on hardware you already own. You're going to run software that you already own on that the OS. And you're doing to use skills and knowledge of that software…

To be honest I sometimes feel that my aversion to getting looked into an ecosystem is actually a detriment in some ways. I have a horrible mishmash of apps and programs and nothing integrates really well long term (story of life on a Linux desktop, really). Maybe life would really be better if I just hand over control and become a true believer!

I've tried this on various platforms (Microsoft, Linux, Apple)... the only one that does it the least worst is Apple. And you get a bunch of other stuff with it, too. Linux is nigh impossible, and the feeling I get with Microsoft is I'm being exploited.

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

olalonde wrote: post #272
flohofwoe wrote: post #211

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> The Finder made all the same mistakes as Windows did. Tbf, the Finder is still crap (if only it would be nearly as good as Windows Explorer was in its heyday I would probably use it more), and the UNIX terminal is pretty much needed to make a Mac usable in the first place - which is fine though, because the UNIX-ness was exactly why I switched to Mac ;)

What's crap about Finder?

It's slow and doesn't... find stuff.

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Post by leokennis »

freetime2 wrote: post #76

Regarding the iPhone 17 Pro: > People who have no use for all these pro video recording features shouldn’t waste their money on it. Unless they want a big chunky iPhone with the best camera array and/or have money to burn. I feel like people who “want the best camera array and have money to burn” probably describes a significant percentage of HN readers. I’m honestly pretty excited that they’ve finally put the larger…

I'm with you. My phone is my primary computer. I want it to have the most computing power, battery life, storage, and camera performance possible. I don't really care for its looks as long as it meets a certain baseline.

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

olalonde wrote: post #272
flohofwoe wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Finder made all the same mistakes as Windows did. Tbf, the Finder is still crap (if only it would be nearly as good as Windows Explorer was in its heyday I would probably use it more), and the UNIX terminal is pretty much needed to make a Mac usable in the first place - which is fine though, because the UNIX-ness was exactly why I switched to Mac ;)

What's crap about Finder?

For me, the keyboard (in)accessibility is the biggest issue. On Windows I got used to navigating Explorer completely with the keyboard — this was a LONG time ago, I have no idea of the current state. On macOS, it's just impossible (or, at the very least (but I doubt), impractical).

Other issues:

- the fact that you cannot cut and paste files

- dragging files from one folder to another can be unreliable/error-prone, particularly in tree view

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Post by stonogo »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #274
opan wrote: post #246

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I've used my past several Android phones without signing into a Google account or using gapps. I pick something with LineageOS support (usually OnePlus stuff) and get it from eBay, update to latest stock firmware (gets newer baseband and such) then flash LineageOS over it and get my apps from F-Droid.

These, “just change the firmware” comments are silly. I should get basic phone functionality from my phone out of the box with exactly ZERO effort. I can use an iPhone without an Apple account. I cannot use an Android phone without a Google account unless they changed that in the last few years.

You can, but you don't get access to the app store.

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Post by efdee »

pasc1878 wrote: post #265
nikau wrote: post #258

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How is \\server\share any harder than finder?

You have to type it. Finder shows them in the sidebar and you just click on it. Apple OS (both classic and NeXTStep) are not keyboard driven but mouse driven.

Same for Explorer, really. The SMB hosts that announce themselves show up in the sidebar.

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Post by commandersaki »

snowwrestler wrote: post #89

> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder made…

Save your customer loyalty energy for businesses where you can actually establish a connection

To be fair, I find despite the various foibles, Apple has always looked out for me when it comes to accessibility -- where none of the competitors bother. Maybe I shouldn't act out of loyalty, but they will keep getting my business as they keep it up (despite Liquid Arse stuffing up accessibility quite a bit).

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Post by fergie »

> the dimensions of the iPhone 5/5S/SE make this iPhone more ‘Air’ than the iPhone Air. If you want a slightly more recent example, the iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini have the real lightness that could make sense in a phone.

I strongly agree. Many tech people who I know personally strongly agree. I feel like St Steve Jobs would have strongly agreed. I really, really want a new iPhone with iPhone 5 dimensions.

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Post by argsnd »

fergie wrote: post #289

> the dimensions of the iPhone 5/5S/SE make this iPhone more ‘Air’ than the iPhone Air. If you want a slightly more recent example, the iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini have the real lightness that could make sense in a phone. I strongly agree. Many tech people who I know personally strongly agree. I feel like St Steve Jobs would have strongly agreed. I really, really want a new iPhone with iPhone 5 dimensions.

They made the mini phones and it turns out nobody bought them because the people who cry out for them are very loud but very few.
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