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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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I kind of despise that too, but in this case it kind of makes sense, the submitted project is a collaboration effort by German and French governments, so talking about various EU governments spending their time and effort on FOSS kind of makes sense, although I also disagree with most of the points parent brought up, FWIW.

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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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There are already quiet a few softwares that claim to be Notion alternatives or seem to be:

- AppFlowy: https://github.com/AppFlowy-IO/AppFlowy

- AFFiNE: https://github.com/toeverything/AFFiNE

- SiYuan: https://github.com/siyuan-note/siyuan

- Trillium Next: https://github.com/TriliumNext/Notes

- AnyType (only clients are source available): https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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This is a really great project from both the French and German governments. I think state-funded open source solutions to digital platforms is a fantastic opportunity to get away from the big tech walled gardens. Of course, there is always the risk that this becomes unmaintained in the future, but the community at least can take over. But until then, it's a nice platform and a nice contribution to the community.

I couldn't upvote you more than once. I agree wholeheartedly with your point. Government-funded open source like this, creating alternatives is a good idea. Taxes put to good use!

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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Honestly it's a reasonable set of dependencies: * Postgres for permanent storage * an OIDC identity provider so you don't have to make your own password system * Redis for caching * S3-compatible object storage (so you don't have to reinvent file uploads) * The app itself What would you rather them do? Waste time reinventing the wheel for no reason? If you have the IDP and object storage setup already figured out you…

That's a typical tech answer. Do you really want to spin up 10 images for note taking for yourself? From a product standpoint that's not sensible and wastes way to much resources.

Are you sure? It’s a collaborative note taking application which is designed to support large groups.

A similar project we collaborate on has Helm charts as an option. “Are you mad? You run an online archive with how many pods, come again?” You may say.

“When said archive can handle a continent’s load and scale almost indefinitely, you engineer things differently”, I’ll answer.

Also, nobody will probably make this comment, if the said application was built by a private company and was not open source.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Outline is also open source (or at least “source available”): https://github.com/outline/outline

All features aren't available in the community edition …

Do you have a reference to the differences? I can't find it on their website nor on GitHub.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Hey. A few developers from the team are on HN and will be happy to answer any questions here! We also made a small scratchpad you can use to test collaboration features, if it doesn't get too flooded :) https://docs.numerique.gouv.fr/docs/a3f0becc-f2b7-45be-a5e5-...

What's your stance on accessibility? Is that something you even consider? Notion is particularly terrible here, so this could be a great alternative for people / organizations who need that.

It's not only considered, it's a an actual goal to be 100% usable by everyone. It's already the case for some of La Suite projects. Not quite there yet right now for some others, but it will be.

And I agree, lots of popular, proprietary solutions should do better in terms of accessibility. I believe open-source helps in that regard, as in many others.

Here in La Suite we have some wcag-geeks in the team and regularly include some of our users with disabilities for feedback.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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post #6

This is a really great project from both the French and German governments. I think state-funded open source solutions to digital platforms is a fantastic opportunity to get away from the big tech walled gardens. Of course, there is always the risk that this becomes unmaintained in the future, but the community at least can take over. But until then, it's a nice platform and a nice contribution to the community.

I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…

I think this is quite right. The government should get out of the business of building roads and giving them away for free.

If they were privately owned, they would be priced appropriately and we would not have all the problems with traffic congestion.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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May I clarify my comment. Trust was maybe a different word , maybe hope is the correct word ? (but doesn't everybody trust hope) But I trust the people who can make me hope for a better future by actively not submitting to those people who are actively trying to reduce my hope in better future. There is absolutely no denying that what Trump has done , has absolutely made many people really hopeless. Such levels of in…

Why do you put spaces before commas? It's unnecessary and makes your writing obnoxious to read.

Seconded, it’s really irritating

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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I am European. I know who Macron is. I know what he does. If one sees Macron as something other than someone who is willing to sell out his country for his masters, that seems unreasonable to me. If the hope of Europe is put on someone like Macron we know that Europe is hopeless. (I think it is)

Firstly, you raise good points , so can you please elaborate? also , whom Do you actually put hope on Europe? > UK actively tries censorship against apple encryption etc. Yes there are countries like germany whose people are really nice ,and I don't mean to offend any european but maybe its my own fault , but I don't know the name of german prime minister (or is it president?) , yes I can search it , but quite frankl…

Space goes after the comma, not in front of it.
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