AI systems with 'unacceptable risk' are now banned in the EU

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 12:03 PM UTC

fredoliveira wrote: post #207

octacat wrote: post #202

Some of the unacceptable activities include: AI used for social scoring (e.g., building risk profiles based on a person’s behavior) - Oh, so insurance, and credit score is banned now? And background checks. AI that manipulates a person’s decisions subliminally or deceptively. - Oh, so no more ads? AI that exploits vulnerabilities like age, disability, or socioeconomic status. - Oh, are we banning facebook now? AI tha…

I fail to see where you stand based on your line by line commentary. Are we not supposed to be against these obvious negatives? Regulation against undesired outcomes needs to start somewhere. Do you believe we should not regulate, simply because we already do some of the things that seem to fall under these individual buckets?

Post by mrfinn » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 12:08 PM UTC

Post by zelphirkalt » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 12:12 PM UTC

cabalamat wrote: post #217

spacemanspiff01 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the laws text: For the purposes of this Regulation, the following definitions apply: (1) ‘AI system’ means a machine-based system that is designed to operate with varying levels of autonomy and that may exhibit adaptiveness after deployment, and that, for explicit or implicit objectives, infers, from the input it receives, how to generate outputs such as predictions, content, recommendations, or decisions that c…

> and that may exhibit adaptiveness after deployment So if an AI can't change its weights after deployment, it's not really an AI? That doesn't make sense. As for the other criteria, they're so vague I think a thermostat might apply.

Post by xdennis » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 12:18 PM UTC

teekert wrote: post #85

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #33

I am not expert but there seems to be an overlap in the article between 'AI' and well ... just software, or signal processing: - AI that collects “real time” biometric data in public places for the purposes of law enforcement. - AI that creates — or expands — facial recognition databases by scraping images online or from security cameras. - AI that uses biometrics to infer a person’s characteristics - AI that collect…

Have been having a lot of laughs about all the things we call AI nowadays. Now it’s becoming less funny. To me it’s just generative AI, LLMs, media generation. But I see the CNN folks suddenly getting “AI” attention. Anything deep learning really. It’s pretty weird. Even our old batch processing, SLURM based clusters with GPU nodes are now “AI Factories”.

Post by Mordisquitos » Tue, Feb 04, 2025, 12:21 PM UTC

Zenst wrote: post #96

theptip wrote: post #89

Seems like a mostly reasonable list of things to not let AI do without better safety evals. > AI that tries to infer people’s emotions at work or school I wonder how broadly this will be construed. For example if an agent uses CoT and they needs emotional state as part of that, can it be used in a work or school setting at all?

I would imagine that such a tool to infer emotional states would be most useful for autistic people who are as I can attest, somewhat handicapped upon that front. Maybe that will get challenged as disability discrimination by some Autistic group. Which would be interesting. As with most things, there are rules, and exceptions to those rules - no shoe fits everyone, though forcing people to wear the wrong shoe size, c…

    Article 5:
    
    1. The following AI practices shall be prohibited: 
    [...]
    (f) the placing on the market, the putting into service for this specific purpose, or the use of AI systems to infer emotions of a natural person in the areas of workplace and education institutions, except where the use of the AI system is intended to be put in place or into the market for medical or safety reasons;