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Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Fencing as done now looks legit stupid, so does racewalking. Javelin, while slightly more cool, is you throwing a stick. Mildly interesting for a few seconds. Football is a top tier sport because it's entertaining. People will pay to see it. Hence there's money to be earned. If someone wants to spend their time seeing how far they can throw a stick, cool, but they shouldn't be surprised they're waking up to an empty…

> Football is a top tier sport because it's entertaining. Some dudes running and kicking a ball from left to right for 90+ minutes? They’re not even allowed to fight… From all the sports this is certainly one of the most boring ones.

I don't like football, or American football either, but the numbers don't lie. Both those sports easily sustain themselves by drawing in audiences.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Being a former athlete (100/200 meters), the issue is that the top-tier sports (e.g., football, volleyball, basketball, etc.) capture the majority of money/value, and if you are from javelin throwing, fencing, or racewalking, unless you have a great sponsor, it will definitely require personal sacrifices to make it to the games. In Brazil a very long time ago, there was a gigantic tug of war between the top-tier spor…

Fencing as done now looks legit stupid, so does racewalking. Javelin, while slightly more cool, is you throwing a stick. Mildly interesting for a few seconds. Football is a top tier sport because it's entertaining. People will pay to see it. Hence there's money to be earned. If someone wants to spend their time seeing how far they can throw a stick, cool, but they shouldn't be surprised they're waking up to an empty…

How to say you have no clue about those sports without saying you have no clue about those sports :-).

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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> Criticizing a system built mostly on government handouts This was not what I was criticising. It was about turning someone’s life into entertainment and, in this extreme GoFundMe example, the right to life becoming a function of how entertaining one is. > (by definition a socialist or communist structure) Socialism and communism are not about government handouts. Both are about controlling the means of production (…

> You might correctly argue that the Soviet Union was not a shining beacon of how to implement it

India as implemented Socialism btw. Which lead to economic crisis[0]

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Indian_economic_crisis

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Fencing as done now looks legit stupid, so does racewalking. Javelin, while slightly more cool, is you throwing a stick. Mildly interesting for a few seconds. Football is a top tier sport because it's entertaining. People will pay to see it. Hence there's money to be earned. If someone wants to spend their time seeing how far they can throw a stick, cool, but they shouldn't be surprised they're waking up to an empty…

Actually, most of the sports are boring to watch. Everything is about context. Football is more entertaining than fencing? Go to a Sunday local game against two amateur teams where the only attendance is you and one of the player's uncle and you have to stay standing up next to the field while its pouring rain. Then go to a fencing contest with 100+ people in attendance, music and a great speaker. Now tell me which o…

The local football team matches in my small town cause traffic jams. The local fencing contest doesn't exist. I have no idea why so many people in this thread are trying to deny obvious trends in relative popularity between sports.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Fencing as done now looks legit stupid, so does racewalking. Javelin, while slightly more cool, is you throwing a stick. Mildly interesting for a few seconds. Football is a top tier sport because it's entertaining. People will pay to see it. Hence there's money to be earned. If someone wants to spend their time seeing how far they can throw a stick, cool, but they shouldn't be surprised they're waking up to an empty…

What looks stupid and cool is purely subjective. Fencing is hard to follow because its fast and movements are subtle. > If someone wants to spend their time seeing how far they can throw a stick, cool, but they shouldn't be surprised they're waking up to an empty bank account every day. But if someone wants to see how well they can kick a ball its somehow worth paying them? The biggest factor here is that team sports…

The criterium is "does it bring viewers" though, which is mostly objective. That a lot of people watch football games on TV and not a lot of people watch fencing is something that can be measured.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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100% I'd strip. Putting that much toil in I'd want maximum compensation

Not everyone has such little self-worth.

Does stripping indicate low self-worth?

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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> in desperation when their insurance tells them to take a hike. Socialized healthcare is good because it doesn't mean you're tied to a job or worried about in/out network hospitals. But, care would still be rationed as it doesn't magically provide us with infinite resources. I just like to point this out since there are very good arguments for socialized care in the US, but this isn't one of them.

Absolutely you are 100% correct. Socialized healthcare is not perfect. But it is much, much better that what the US has now. Every other developed country spends vastly less and gets much better health outcomes. [1] Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Adopt socialized healthcare now, even though it is imperfect, and then work on improving it as time goes on. That is the path to making stuff better. [1] ht…

It isn't a case of perfect being the enemy of good, it is that you're looking at what might potentially be the most corrupt, captured and incapable healthcare regulator in the modern world and advocating that they get even more power. That seems like a bad strategy. The US healthcare system won't be fixed by dissociating patients from the process even further.

The obvious thing to do is move power away from the regulator and make it easier for consumers to pay directly for treatment. It works for almost everything else.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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post #106

Being a former athlete (100/200 meters), the issue is that the top-tier sports (e.g., football, volleyball, basketball, etc.) capture the majority of money/value, and if you are from javelin throwing, fencing, or racewalking, unless you have a great sponsor, it will definitely require personal sacrifices to make it to the games. In Brazil a very long time ago, there was a gigantic tug of war between the top-tier spor…

Honestly it is the first time I read volleyball mentioned as a top-tier sport. This must be a regional thing because in most countries volleyball is totally anonymous.

Pretty much all sports (soccer might be a singular exception) are "regional" in this sense.

Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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Being a former athlete (100/200 meters), the issue is that the top-tier sports (e.g., football, volleyball, basketball, etc.) capture the majority of money/value, and if you are from javelin throwing, fencing, or racewalking, unless you have a great sponsor, it will definitely require personal sacrifices to make it to the games. In Brazil a very long time ago, there was a gigantic tug of war between the top-tier spor…

Fencing as done now looks legit stupid, so does racewalking. Javelin, while slightly more cool, is you throwing a stick. Mildly interesting for a few seconds. Football is a top tier sport because it's entertaining. People will pay to see it. Hence there's money to be earned. If someone wants to spend their time seeing how far they can throw a stick, cool, but they shouldn't be surprised they're waking up to an empty…

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Re: Olympians turn to OnlyFans to fund dreams due to 'broken' finance system (2024)

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post #106

Being a former athlete (100/200 meters), the issue is that the top-tier sports (e.g., football, volleyball, basketball, etc.) capture the majority of money/value, and if you are from javelin throwing, fencing, or racewalking, unless you have a great sponsor, it will definitely require personal sacrifices to make it to the games. In Brazil a very long time ago, there was a gigantic tug of war between the top-tier spor…

I think that the Olympics contrary to it's bullshit message of peace is in reality an arena where nation states compete against eachother. So athletes are basically diplomats.

The idea is exactly about channelling the competitive spirit to peaceful sport rather than war.

Athletes are not like diplomats, they're like warriors, except there's no killing.

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