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Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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It seems like any discussion concerning a social media or news media site is quickly filled with polarized takes on its users, editors, moderators, or the organization itself.

Why do you think that is? I no longer use socials outside of this one, and I know a strong element of my continuing use is the moderators and users.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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Biggest issue is the lack of free speech. It’s a platform with an agenda, which is a huge red flag.

That's my biggest issue with it. I didn't even have twitter to begin with, but after trying out Bluesky I've barely had the patience to use it. Most people on there seem to be ultra-left wing virtue signalling phychopaths. It's obnoxiously progressive with no space for nuanced thought.

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Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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Number of people using Gmail is basically 100%

Your implausible estimate got me curious; so I checked[1,2] the first couple of result from Google on email marketshare. GMail is 27.7%. Apple has double the share, at 54%, you should be worried about Apple instead. 1. https://www.litmus.com/email-client-market-share 2. https://www.oberlo.com/statistics/most-used-email-clients

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Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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How many people are running their own mail outside of large orgs or privacy/security niche? How many of those have had trouble sending mail to eg gmail?

It's easier to run your own Mastodon server than your own mail server (for the exact reason you cite).

Is that just an artifact of its relative unpopularity? Running your own email server used to be easy too, before the spammers wrecked it. If Mastodon became popular, it would presumably come with a large spam problem, with the same sorts of solutions.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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Bluesky, Mastodon, and what's left of Twitter/X are all pretty much dead in my experience. There's just so much fragmentation or migration away generally that none of it is very interesting. I think a lot of people took the Musk Twitter takeover as an excuse to re-evaluate their whole relationship to that sort of platform which basically led to a death spiral.

I feel like twitter / x being called dead has happened a lot since Elon's purchase (they fired folks which lead to claims to was going to be going down etc etc). Is this really the case now that it's dead (for real)? Are folks going back to NBC/MSNBC etc for news?

I'm not sure that NBC/MSNBC news was ever the primary reason people went to Twitter. There are no shortages of mainstream news sources. That was never my interest in Twitter.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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IMO Mastodon is the only real place for a truly decentralized option. BlueSky became immediately political in its narrative and many people just view it in the same light as Truth Social now. It has a future, but the branding in very tainted.

can't someone just stand up another atproto AppView with different default feeds to solve this problem? BlueSky's moderation team has traditional Twitter-like biases but my understanding of the AT protocol, from reading the spec, is that they do not have a monopoly on moderation in the AT network.

Absolutely, and users can choose custom moderation and block lists to offload the work to someone else.

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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It depends on what your personal philosophy of blocklists is. If you believe that on a supermassive social network that no single person's content is worth anything and can safely discarded then what you're interested in is signal and a low false negative rate. Who a person follows is a pretty strong signal of their values. Is it always accurate, no, you stand as an example of such a person but their feed is still fu…

> Who a person follows is a pretty strong signal of their values I strongly disagree, and believing this to be true is a problem for public discourse IMO. What a person posts and who they repost is a strong signal of their values. I dislike/disagree with the validity of a social construct where people who choose to stay informed are assumed to hold values they do not.

I don't think you can really decide whether something is a useful signal or not. I don't and can't assume anything about an individual because they follow Evil McBaddington. But the fun thing about statistics is I that I can assume a great many things about the set of all people who follow Evil McBaddington.

I see this "scale invariant fallacy" all the time with programmers. The forward direction being a thing and that thing in a for loop are equivalent in essence, and the reverse being that a property being true about a set means it's true for its members (can decompose aggregate statements into an equivalent for loop acting on each member).

Re: Trying to use Bluesky without getting burned again

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But then you need to research the severs, shop around, and a bunch of other shit people don’t have time for. A bad user experience is just that: bad.

Mastodon/ActivityPub is not Twitter. It's not millions of people in one stadium. It's more like dozens of rooms in a big mansion. (sorry, the analogy isn't perfect) ... You don't just walk into the room with a bunch of nazis because that place is probably going to suck to have a conversation in. Look at what the conversations and social expectations are before you jump in, and things will work out a lot better for ev…

But it’s not diverse enough group of humans to be interesting. I don’t want to hear Linux takes all day.

That’s due to barriers to entry and lack of critical mass.

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