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Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Post by accrual »

grishka wrote: post #122
DCKing wrote: post #67

The iPad App Store is perhaps an even more dysfunctional place than the iPhone in how much it holds hardware and use cases hostage to the manufacturer's vision. Just imagine how much more versatile the iPad Pro would be if only you could run Linux VMs on it in the moments you want to do anything remotely tinkery on an iPad. Apple's hardware since the 2021 iPad Pro (with M1) has had the ability to do this. The iPads h…

Not just VMs, you could technically also run things like PC emulators, with real PC operating systems, especially older ones, with acceptable performance. Just imagine using Windows 98 on an iPad!

Reminds me of running Windows 95 under Bochs on the Sony PSP. The the CPU turned up to max (333MHz) it was just barely fast enough to impress your friends. ;)

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Post by fingerlocks »

rcarmo wrote: post #73
itake wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is their way is to buy a dev account, which allows you to install apps for up to 1 year. https://forums.developer.apple.com/forums/thread/91519

Been there, done that, gave up because it’s not a justifiable expense for individual use. Wrote a couple of Android apps instead but can't really use them daily.

Presumably you work in tech.

Every employer I’ve ever had will reimburse my personal dev account fee as an educational expense. Have you tried asking?

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Post by troupo »

Longhanks wrote: post #118

With these legislations, I always wonder how the lawmakers come up with timeframes like 6 months. Who is to say this implementation doesn't take, say, a year? I doubt lawmakers have the technological know how to estimate such a project (actually, I doubt anyone has) - but 6 months seems rather short (given they hadn't just had to implement the same thing for iOS)...?

Any deadline will be declared either too short or too long.

That's why the deadlines usually tend to be on the shorter side to put actual pressure on companies needing to implement them. However, the companies always have a way to say "look, we've tried our best, it's just we just need more time". No one is going to fine them for not meeting those deadlines if the companies are actually working on implementing the changes in good faith.

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Post by chongli »

immibis wrote: post #273
BillyTheKing wrote: post #108

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totally agree - the iPad Pro could be a great second coding/programming tool - I'd love to justify buying myself one, but.. I just don't see a use-case if I can't work on it. I don't design stuff, don't really feel like I need a separate browsing device either

Why not buy one of the hundreds of non-Apple tablets which can do what you want?

Because they don’t run iPadOS? People love all the things the OS can do. They just wish it wouldn’t stop them from doing that one thing in particular that they it to do.

Tantalizingly close to perfection with one glaring flaw is extremely frustrating!

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Post by immibis »

chongli wrote: post #286
immibis wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not buy one of the hundreds of non-Apple tablets which can do what you want?

Because they don’t run iPadOS? People love all the things the OS can do. They just wish it wouldn’t stop them from doing that one thing in particular that they it to do. Tantalizingly close to perfection with one glaring flaw is extremely frustrating!

What can it do that other ones can't? Integration with Apple's walled garden is the most common complaint.

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Post by rmbyrro »

anileated wrote: post #80

Do I think side-loading and alt app stores would make iPads and iPhones more versatile devices? Yes. Do I believe indie devs will be worse off? Unfortunately, also yes. If you are a solo app developer, you will now have to keep presence on all app stores out there, since if you don’t publish on one then a copycat will. Every store would have its own review processes, fee structures, billing and tax procedures. Since…

> you will now have to keep presence on all app stores out there, since if you don’t publish on one then a copycat will

Nobody has to do anything. If you don't want the trouble of publishing on an alt-store to serve your customers, what's the problem of letting others do so?

This is such a lazyness argument, to be honest...

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Post by Blackstrat »

There's no reason for this change. Experience has shown that when governments dictate technology changes, in the end, none of us are better off. There are alternatives to the IPad. Buy one of them. IOS/IPadOS are going to become less stable and less secure with forced access. Too much government everywhere.

Re: Apple must open iPadOS to sideloading within 6 months, EU says

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Post by windowsrookie »

rovr138 wrote: post #277
windowsrookie wrote: post #259

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Why don't you just use a 13" MacBook Air? It seems to solve all of your problems without any hacks. "work from a small factor without carrying a brick to charge a 14", almost 3Kg device" 13" M2 Air - 15 Hours of battery life and 1.24kg. An iPad + Keyboard case is likely going to weight more than a MacBook Air anyways.

Not who you replied to, but in my case, I want to be able to take notes with a pen but also use a full browser. If I want a keyboard to type something, I’ll attach one. Basically a surface pro, but using an iPad. Thin, light, Apple ecosystem for sharing things. But I want Firefox with extensions, a good editor, etc.

That's understandable. Having a separate device just for notes works better for me (e-ink preferably). But I certainly get the appeal of having everything all in one device.
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