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Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by ceejayoz »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #279

What's the problem with NSFW? Why discriminate and demonize this kind of content? > We don't want to create a bad experience for someone that might stumble across explicit images, nor is it in our company ethos to support explicit content, so some lascivious or sexualized posts are not allowed. Hey Imgur! By banning NSFT you've create a bad experience for me and now I'm stumbled. Happy?

> What's the problem with NSFW? Why discriminate and demonize this kind of content?

The usual answer is that advertisers don't want their ads appearing next to it.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by unaindz »

taneq wrote: post #274
waboremo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit has also recently announced moves in regards to NSFW content[1] by limiting data access to mature content more aggressively than they currently do. It seems like an area a lot of platforms are struggling with and seem to opt for a complete ban. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit/comments/12qwagm/an_update_r...

Reddit has been increasingly awful like this. Limiting scroll on mobile before forcing you to log in. Constant nags to install the app. Forced login or redirect to the app on mobile or on 'new' reddit for any nsfw content. For now old.reddit.com works to get rid of all this guff but when that goes, so do I.

I recently discovered libreddit and nitter and couldn't be happier. Good UI and loads super fast without restrictions. I recommend to self host though as the public servers can get overwhelmed.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by AlecSchueler »

Gigachad wrote: post #124
phendrenad2 wrote: post #87

The pendulum has clearly started to swing back to sexual repression. Society has started to see sexual freedom and expression as grotesque. Now the only question is how far it'll swing.

I think it’s more likely that hosting sexual content involves having to deal with loads of abusive material which is hard to detect and process, and which requires great haste in dealing with. It’s hard to have an army of dirt cheap outsourced moderators sort out regular porn from revenge porn. If you take too long dealing with regular spam, not much happens. If you take too long dealing with this kind of content, yo…

This is the thing entirely. So much of the NSFW content is abusive.

The HN crowd is mostly safe from such attacks so this is a real blindspot.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by AlecSchueler »

w4ffl35 wrote: post #268
red_admiral wrote: post #239

I wonder what triggered this - legislation? Their payment processor? The ad network they get their revenue from? In my experience, this kind of change happens much more often for money reasons than for moral reasons. I think Tumblr's TOS change happened because their credit card processor became uncomfortable at them being essentially "in the porn business" - and indeed, seeing how much smaller Tumblr's business was…

probably AI porn fears

And more and more legislation against revenge porn. There have been so many subreddits dedicated to non consensual intimate media and most of their content was hosted on imgur.

People are framing this as an attack against sex but in reality our automated moderation tools can't know if consent sas given by the models and human moderation is too costly.

The rise of AI porn is giving more power than ever to people who wish to hurt women.

There are still plenty of places to share NSFW content but they're moving towards models of consent verification like PornHub.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

cmilton wrote: post #255
LadyCailin wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I think it’s fine for people whose only goal is to be assholes to others or to spread disinformation to be deplatformed by private services. If that happens to primarily center around conservatives, then that sounds like conservatives should do some soul searching.

Who\What is deciding who these "people whose only goal is to be assholes to others or to spread disinformation" are?

Platform owners, I guess.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by Jenk »

chrisan wrote: post #203
segasaturn wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imgur has been lousy for a while, redirecting direct image links to their awful js-heavy reddit clone site. They've been due to be replaced for a while but this will definitely accelerate that. Also, the irony of the Tumblr comparison is that Tumblr has become my default social image hosting provider now that they allow soft porn and have a paid ad-free subscription. The tables have turned!

> redirecting direct image links to their awful js-heavy reddit clone site Are you perhaps copying the wrong thing when trying to share? I've never had this happen. Even copying an image link from their homepage at the time of this post works as expected https://i.imgur.com/v052wgb.jpeg (some starwars cartoon) or https://i.imgur.com/VT1B7fn.mp4 (some cat with a pineapple)

You first link redirected me to https://imgur.com/v052wgb

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by chongli »

sizzle wrote: post #240
mjr00 wrote: post #5

Tumblr 2.0 incoming? It's a not-so-unspoken fact that a lot of social media platforms are popular because they have tons of pornography. Reddit, Twitter, OnlyFans (more openly) and (until now) Imgur all have massive communities around explicit content. Even Twitch and YouTube are hugely successful as ways for OnlyFans creators to drive users to their explicit content. Going to be very interesting to see if imgur drop…

I mean the site is ad infested and slow as hell to load, such a fall from their former grace when they were seen as an internet darling next to photobucket type sites when options for uploading and hotlinking were limited due to bandwidth constraints. I think Reddit started hosting their own content or whatever the redgif site is seems to have taken over Imgur for a while now and the images/vids load lightning fast i…

the site is ad infested and slow as hell to load, such a fall from their former grace when they were seen as an internet darling

This is the cycle of a lot of ad-driven businesses. They start out sleek and quick to load because they’re ad-free. They grow insanely fast and burn runway. Then they begin loading the site down with ads to monetize the users. This leads to a gradual exodus and eventual death (or death in the star-like sense of eternal irrelevance).

It seems to be an unstable equilibrium. If you want to stay on top in terms of users and actually make money you’ve got to have a lean and highly optimized site with non-intrusive ads. On the other hand, if you give in to the temptation to take any ad who wants you then you doom the site in exchange for a short term profit.

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by MuffinFlavored »

ceejayoz wrote: post #281
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #279

What's the problem with NSFW? Why discriminate and demonize this kind of content? > We don't want to create a bad experience for someone that might stumble across explicit images, nor is it in our company ethos to support explicit content, so some lascivious or sexualized posts are not allowed. Hey Imgur! By banning NSFT you've create a bad experience for me and now I'm stumbled. Happy?

> What's the problem with NSFW? Why discriminate and demonize this kind of content? The usual answer is that advertisers don't want their ads appearing next to it.

turn them off on NSFW posts?

Re: Imgur Updates TOS, Banning NSFW Content

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Post by frankacter »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #218
yreg wrote: post #174

How far have we come from "My Gift to Reddit: I created an image hosting service that doesn't suck."[0] I suppose it has lasted longer than anyone expected. [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/7zlyd/my_gift_t...

It was cynical from the beginning: the author made the same post on Digg also, it just didn't take off there.

This is an often repeated myth, from the creator:

>"Yes I did" [create it for Reddit] There's some conspiracy theory going around that I actually created it for Digg. So, here's what happened. I posted it on Reddit, Digg, and a couple forums that I frequent at the same time. The server actually ended up going down and the Reddit post got spammed with "It doesn't work!!". So, I deleted the thread, corrected the problems, and posted it again the next day. I didn't bother deleting the Digg thread; that's why it has a timestamp one day before the Reddit one. I'll try to update this with links to whatever proof I have, but I don't have time right now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/9tlwi/im_the_imgur_gu...

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