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Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

dsego wrote: post #250
m463 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, I wonder if infants without a mature immune system might do better not being exposed to a lifetime of pathogens in found adult saliva. I think the normal way babies ramp their immune system is breastfeeding - their body struggles with soemthing, it is transferred to mom's nipple when breastfeeding, the mother forms an immune response, it is incorporated into the breast milk, the baby retrieves it n…

I am always worried about sharing my caries or gum disease bacteria, so I avoid sharing spoons and food. And then I've seen mothers pick up a pacifier from the ground and put it in their mouth to "clean" it before giving it back to the baby.

Do you [personally] have specifically bad bacteria in your gums?

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Post by newaccount74 »

myshpa wrote: post #189
PebblesRox wrote: post #89

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My guess is through breast milk - which I was wondering about with the study as well; does it make a difference for breastfed babies whether their moms eat a lot of peanuts?

Anecdotal: a pregnant woman ate a lot of the stuff (something similar to Bamba) when pregnant, and I mean a lot. The child was diagnosed with peanut allergy when 1 y.o. Solution? Peanut microdosing, increasing dose progressively, in few months the allergy was gone.

Anecdote from my partner: Allergies come and go, they're not necessarily permanent even if you don't treat them.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by miriam_catira »

logicfiction wrote: post #137
bombcar wrote: post #95

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Trader Joes (and Costco) are just fine selling branded product if they can get a deal for it cheap enough. It's usually the manufacturer that doesn't want to "cheapen their brand" to hit the price points, but they're willing to "bulk up" for Costco or sell direct to Trader Joes at times.

Also a lot of things at Trader Joes are just white labeled versions of other products. As in, literally the same product, just inside packaging that says "Trader Joe's "

We went on a factory tour at Cabot Creamery in VT several years ago, and they were packaging an off-label that day. The guide didn't specify what store it was for, but we thought we recognized it. When we went to TJ's the next week, we saw that same exact packaging on the shelves.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Post by dsego »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #281
dsego wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am always worried about sharing my caries or gum disease bacteria, so I avoid sharing spoons and food. And then I've seen mothers pick up a pacifier from the ground and put it in their mouth to "clean" it before giving it back to the baby.

Do you [personally] have specifically bad bacteria in your gums?

I do have some gum recession, and a lot of fillings. My wife has better dental health, even though she gives her teeth less attention than me in terms of hygiene. But I've also found articles online about spreading cavities. Here is an example.

> Dental caries, commonly known as tooth decay, is the single most common chronic childhood disease. In fact, it is an infectious disease. Mothers with cavities can transmit caries-producing oral bacteria to their babies when they clean pacifiers by sticking them in their own mouths or by sharing spoons.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140220112402.h...

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Post by soperj »

shkkmo wrote: post #280
soperj wrote: post #243

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This is literally an article that is pointing to a research paper that doesn't definitely conclude anything.

I'm not sure which article or paper you are reading? The paper the article references says: > A 77% reduction in peanut allergy was estimated when peanut was introduced to the diet of all infants, at 4 months with eczema, and at 6 months without eczema. The estimated reduction in peanut allergy diminished with every month of delayed introduction. If introduction was delayed to 12 months, peanut allergy was only reduc…

Based on a population of jewish children in england vs. a population of jewish children in Israel, literally a repeat population from the first study 8 years ago.

The paper in question also states: "Moreover, it should be noted that since the change in Australian guidelines in 2016, consumption of peanut during the first year of life increased from 28.4% before the guidelines (2007-11) to 88.6% after the implementation of the guidelines (2016-18). Despite this change, a recent publication has shown no decline in the observed prevalence of peanut allergy in Australia in 2020, which remained stable at 3.1%."

It's been tried in a large population with literally zero effect.

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Post by soperj »

rabidonrails wrote: post #224
soperj wrote: post #19

Somehow all the studies end up being on jewish kids in Isreal vs. jewish kids in England. Not exactly a representative sample of people across the globe. The studies themselves have all the hallmarks of shit science, but everyone on here seems to agree with it because it fits their world view.

But that's exactly why this is so interesting. You take a set of people with extremely similar genetics but somehow have very different reactions. I suppose a technical (albeit not precise) analogy would be you producing 100 servers and selling half to both AWS and Azure. Then you find out that 25 of the servers at Azure are overheating and dying while AWS doesn't seem to have this problem at all. So you look into it…

> But that's exactly why this is so interesting. You take a set of people with extremely similar genetics but somehow have very different reactions.

Or it's based on a hundred different other things than when they first tried peanut butter.

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Post by DebtDeflation »

nerpderp82 wrote: post #2

> Food allergies are the result of our immune system mistaking something harmless for a severe threat. If you IDS has never seen X and X is unlike anything it has seen, it will probably flag it. > There had been long-standing advice to avoid foods that can trigger allergies during early childhood. At one point, families were once told to avoid peanut until their child was three years old. This advice was never based…

>Cultures where infants are fed on the same broad spectrum of foods that adults eat have MUCH lower incidence of allergies.

Most mammalian wild animals (and humans until 100 years or so ago) drink their mothers milk up until they're able to eat regular food and then from that point on eat whatever adults of their species eat. They don't go through 5 different levels of Gerber before eating real food.

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Post by ramraj07 »

dboreham wrote: post #164
dap wrote: post #110

I still can’t get over that the official guidelines for years were the opposite of this, and it seems to have led to a tremendous increase in severe peanut allergy. I get that public health organizations have to make recommendations in the face of uncertainty. But to get it so wrong, with severe consequences — was there a postmortem or investigation of how that happened? How are people to trust public health guidelin…

My understanding of this is that the original problem was children choking on whole peanuts. Hence the advice not to eat peanuts . This somehow got lost in translation and became "don't eat any peanut-based food". Disclosure: son has severe peanut allergy.

How long did you actively avoid peanut products for your son though?

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Post by stametseater »

afterburner wrote: post #135
cmurf wrote: post #45

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As popular as it is, I wonder if there's effectively microdosing happening from baby's 1st week, even before they eat it themselves?

Good question, I mean how many people were actually feeding Cheeto puffs to their 6 month old before it became a health trend

The peanut allergy hysteria narrative says that I can't eat peanuts on a plane or in a classroom with somebody who's allergic because the mere odor of peanuts might kill them. If there is any shred of truth to that narrative (which I seriously doubt), then perhaps trace peanut dust in a home from adults eating crunchy peanut-based snacks is enough early exposure to inhibit an allergic reaction.
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