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Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

#41

Where does peanut allergy come from anyway? The first time I heard about it was on American TV sitcoms. Two decades later we have EPIPENs in our schools too, but in my childhood food allergies were never discussed at all. Not a single mention at all.

There is a mostly ignored body of research linking at least some food allergies to food proteins in vaccines. Here is one such study https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3571073

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

For anyone wondering, Trader Joe's sells these in the US! They're great, and they're "real" Bamba and not a TJ's replica.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

#43
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

however, there are other factors to keep in mind. you mention giving your chewed up food: I read a few years ago that babies who sleep in the same bed as the parents have a much higher mortality rate; assuming it's true, I guess that with mouth to mouth germ exchange it would be even worse. Also, a lot of food today is full of chemical residues etc that are tolerated by adults, not quite so by babies.

Isn't the mortality because of SIDS? It has not much to do with germ transmission.

SIDS and also suffocation, which is now separated out from SIDS.

However, in recent years there has been a backlash to the backlash, and under certain conditions (no drugs/alcohol, exclusive breastfeeding, no blankets) some doctors will recommend co-sleeping. It’s controversial.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

#44

Where does peanut allergy come from anyway? The first time I heard about it was on American TV sitcoms. Two decades later we have EPIPENs in our schools too, but in my childhood food allergies were never discussed at all. Not a single mention at all.

In my late 30s I developed a legume allergy (including peanuts). Not knowing much about child peanut allergies (we gave all of our kids peanut butter from an early age), I’ve had to adjust my own life to avoiding peanuts, soy, and so many delicious beans. My symptoms are just gastro related, so it’s probably not the same as childhood peanut allergies, though.

Peanuts contain a unique kind of lectin, which, unlike almost all other plant lectins, does not break down with preparation (heat, mechanical, etc.). Lectins irritate the gut lining and therefore cause gastro issues for a lot of people, peanuts probably moreso than other foods.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

#45
post #16

This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

As popular as it is, I wonder if there's effectively microdosing happening from baby's 1st week, even before they eat it themselves?

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

#46

> Food allergies are the result of our immune system mistaking something harmless for a severe threat. If you IDS has never seen X and X is unlike anything it has seen, it will probably flag it. > There had been long-standing advice to avoid foods that can trigger allergies during early childhood. At one point, families were once told to avoid peanut until their child was three years old. This advice was never based…

Exactly How in tarnation did anyone think keeping babies away from the allergens would help with allergies is beyond me Which countries has the least amount of peanut allergies? Countries where people give it without much concern Thanks to these misguided though there are people severely allergic to peanuts

Not saying that you're wrong, but your line of reasoning is incorrect. It could also have been because all the people with peanut allergies have died and the people surviving all have some sort of genetic advantage against peanut allergy.

Again, the above reasoning is wrong but not completely baseless.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

#47
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

however, there are other factors to keep in mind. you mention giving your chewed up food: I read a few years ago that babies who sleep in the same bed as the parents have a much higher mortality rate; assuming it's true, I guess that with mouth to mouth germ exchange it would be even worse. Also, a lot of food today is full of chemical residues etc that are tolerated by adults, not quite so by babies.

Isn't the mortality because of SIDS? It has not much to do with germ transmission.

> Isn’t the mortality because of SIDS?

SIDS isn’t a cause, SIDS is a name for when no cause is known.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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post #42
post #16

This is not new news, but nonetheless important to replicate and keep studying. I think the first often-cited study about this was in 2008 [1]. There are several more, including one in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2015 [2]. Basically, the original study looked at Jewish kids in Israel versus the UK and saw that peanut allergies were about 10x lower in Israel, even though Jews of European background (Ashkena…

For anyone wondering, Trader Joe's sells these in the US! They're great, and they're "real" Bamba and not a TJ's replica.

https://www.traderjoes.com/home/products/pdp/058373

"Bamba Peanut Snacks contain just four, simple ingredients: corn grits, peanut paste, palm oil, and salt."

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

#49

> Food allergies are the result of our immune system mistaking something harmless for a severe threat. If you IDS has never seen X and X is unlike anything it has seen, it will probably flag it. > There had been long-standing advice to avoid foods that can trigger allergies during early childhood. At one point, families were once told to avoid peanut until their child was three years old. This advice was never based…

>Train how you live as soon as possible. There are dangerous caveats to this advice! For example, don't feed infants fish or shellfish more than this allergy test. They contain one of the highest levels of mercury in the entire food web. Best to wait until the they've grown.

Unless you feed them huge quantities of seafood, I fail to see how this is an issue.

From an allergy standpoint small exposure would be enough to reduce risk of developing an allergy.

Re: Give babies peanut butter to cut peanut allergies, study says

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> Food allergies are the result of our immune system mistaking something harmless for a severe threat. If you IDS has never seen X and X is unlike anything it has seen, it will probably flag it. > There had been long-standing advice to avoid foods that can trigger allergies during early childhood. At one point, families were once told to avoid peanut until their child was three years old. This advice was never based…

> This advice was never based on science.

No, it was based on common sense. If X causes problems, not doing X is generally a good idea.

It turns out that in this particular scenario, common sense was wrong. But allergies weren't understood by science, so all we had to go on was common sense.

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