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Are you saying that the US/it's allies destroyed Nordstream 2? Is there any proof of that? What lead you to believe this?
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/21/...) https://archive.vn/UpsuY
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It’s impossible that it was the US that blew Nordstream, because it would have made the European allies very upset, and there is NO WAY the US wanted to make them upset.
Whether it's good local privacy laws in your country or a good privacy-respecting TOS from a company, both are basically worthless when a bigger entity comes barging into the picture. So your government collects biometric data but passes laws promising not to misuse it... you may very well find that those promises are worth less than dirt when a country with leverage over your own starts making demands that your gove…
I sense that many people consider organizations and groups of people as a definite thing. A country, the Google, the Facebook, etc, talk about these like if they were a reliably formed predictable object or entity. While those are an ever changing blob composed of ever chaning composition of people with ever changing views, intentions and agenda in an ever changing environment. Any relationships with those are moment…
So what is the concern here? The USA wants to check those who turn up at their border is who they say they are, and they also want to know if they are a good egg as far as the authorities know where they are from. Both of these sound iminently reasonable.
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Life in Europe looks pretty nice from the outside at least. Could America sign up for self-vassalage or something?
That's because the US allowed Europe to do social spending instead of military spending in order to keep them from going Communist. And anyway, the result was a monstrously armed US and a defenseless Europe, so it was ultimately a win-win for America.
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> What is Germany getting in return for having Nordstream 2 blown up by the US/allies? Nothing, because that didn’t happen. (Most likely, Russia blew up the not-being-used pipe as a capacity demonstration aimed at Baltic Pipe, to raise the perceived cost by government decisionmakers of continuing support for Ukraine; they probably also juice the propaganda about the US being behind it, to promote internal strife in t…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/12/21/... (https://archive.vn/UpsuY)
So the same government that has just lost the biometric data of millions of afghan people (including afghan employees of ISAF military whose life is now in danger because of this) and merely shrugged when asked about it now wants access to my biometric data? No thanks.
So what is the concern here? The USA wants to check those who turn up at their border is who they say they are, and they also want to know if they are a good egg as far as the authorities know where they are from. Both of these sound iminently reasonable.
Will USA share the biometric data of its citizens with EU or any other country who may want to similarly verify the identities of people showing up at their borders?
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>We have had the Five Eyes and ECHELON for decades. Since before the Snowden revelations. How is this different? Because the EU is not part of either?
Well one of the countries in the Five Eyes (UK) used to be a part of the EU, until fairly recently. Note for those in the thread who haven't heard of ECHELON until now (just like me) - it is the exact same list of countries as for the Five Eyes. > [...] Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States, also known as the Five Eyes. [0] 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
In the less-famous-than-they-ought-to-be words of Victoria Nuland, "Fuck the EU" [0] [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGq_Xvzn_3I