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Post by FactolSarin »

potency wrote: post #218
ancapsfascists wrote: post #77

Good to see I'm vindicated in the prediction that Musk has zero interest in free speech, he only has interest in his narrative being dominant on Twitter.

He's also restored countless accounts that were banned under previous ownership. While banning ElonJet flys in the face of being a "free speech absolutist", he's certainly demonstrated that he's generally in favor of freer speech.

He's demonstrated he's generally in favor of speech he likes. I don't think there's any obvious connection between those accounts getting banned/unbanned under his leadership other than "does Elon like this account?"

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

1234letshaveatw wrote: post #192
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like what? Musk, the self-proclaimed free speech absolutionist, said he removed most policies and whatnot.

I thought he mentioned increasing the removal of illegal content and ensuring that public discourse wasn't influenced/manipulated, by state actors, overwhelmingly towards one side over another?

> wasn't influenced/manipulated, by state actors, overwhelmingly towards one side over another

Step 1 - learn that there are more than two sides to the world. Even in 2D thinking of the flat earth. We live in 3D

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Post by kika »

apawloski wrote: post #115
czbond wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

That's not a great analogy. Nobody "placed" any sort of tracking on his jet. The plane publicly broadcasts its location information out in the open. Somebody just looked at the information and tweeted it.

Not "nobody" but government. "Congress shall make no law...", oh, shi.., that's different! /s

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Post by nomagicbullet »

saboot wrote: post #111

It's pretty clear Elon wants everyone that has insulted or crossed him or otherwise proven him wrong to suffer some consequence to alleviate his bruised ego. Fauci, ElonJet, and more Think I'm wrong? Let's see if he'll go after Jack Dorsey in the future for recently correcting him on going after CSAM.

The cracks are already showing. Musk and Dorsey are in different sides of the argument with Elon accusing previous Twitter leadership of inaction.

Jack didn't like that accusation:

https://twitter.com/jack/status/1601302412056473600

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Post by starkd »

yifanl wrote: post #222
seanw444 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don't know why anyone thought Twitter would be a "bastion" of free speech. His history proves otherwise.

I mean all things considered, pre-Musk buyout, Twitter was largely the least moderated of the major social media sites I'm aware of. Yes, people constantly brigaded and flooded the like buttons, but unlike Facebook groups or subreddits, users couldn't ban other users comments, so you'd just have to accept the extremists. So if Musk literally did nothing but continue that pattern, he could justifiably make the claim t…

wow. It's almost like you haven't been around the past month. Did you even read the Twitter files? They were banning and shadow-banning all sorts of people! (They just called it "visibility filtering").

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Post by kayodelycaon »

ffggvv wrote: post #202

isn’t this basically like doxxing? aren’t the people criticizing this move the ones who would be in hysterics if someone did this to a journalist or politician they like? especially if it was a woman of color or whatever preferred group

The data is publicly available. See https://flightaware.com :)

Edit:

Here's all of the ORD to GRB flights https://flightaware.com/live/findflight?origin=K ORD&destination=KGRB

Here's all Cirrus SR-20s https://flightaware.com/live/aircrafttype/SR20 (Single engine propeller plane, usually privately owned)

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Post by rootusrootus »

starkd wrote: post #215
Flipflip79 wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, this is publicly available information. Flight tracks are not private

It doesn't matter if its publicly available. To aggregate the data in such an easily accessible form is an invitation to crackpots. Few crackpots are going to seek out such information unless they are truly dedicated from the get-go.

Crackpots were already using FR24, or just their own ADS-B receivers if it was local. The twitter account is just for entertainment.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by woodruffw »

EarlKing wrote: post #265
alarmingfox wrote: post #4

Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456

Just so we're clear: You'll be totally in favor of maintaining the accounts of anyone who routinely posts the location of others, including yourself, right? Because that's not stalking at all... right?

Relitigating this is not going to be fruitful: Elon Musk is a public figure who chooses to fly by private jet. Callsigns and flight status are public information by necessity.
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