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We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…

Not to mention that many of the skills needed by the original cavemen to survive are gone in today's society. In other words, if we were to compete with the original cavemen in their environment, we would most likely fare rather poorly, at least in the short term.

Not trying to glorify off-the-grid living or anything, but I think it's interesting to think that in some (very specific) ways, the cavemen were actually superior to us.

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We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

There's this classic article on someone's quest to make a toaster from scratch https://gizmodo.com/one-mans-nearly-impossible-quest-to-make... .

He was working too hard:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=toasting+bread+over+cam...

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That was fun. Badges weren't working (daily checkin required) so the front desk had to manually activate them. Slack wasn't sending messages and Pagerduty was throwing 500's.

... because you need to contact a server 1000 miles away to issue badges in your building. This cloud-for-everything-even-local-devices thing is both hilarious and sad. I wonder if anyone had trouble doing their dishes or laundry today, because I'm sure someone thought dish washers and washing machines needed cloud.

I don't know if you can say an on-premise badge hosting service would be more reliable than the cloud.

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We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…

Well, you didn't just find a cave, it was made for you by other people. Interdependence is a hallmark of social species such as Homo Sapiens. Even your caveman ancestors were probably reliant on one another in many ways.

>It seems that someone asked the great anthropologist, Margaret Mead, “What is the first sign you look for to tell of an ancient civilization?” The interviewer had in mind a tool or article of clothing. Ms. Mead surprised him by answering, “a healed femur (thigh bone)”. When someone breaks a femur, they can’t survive to hunt, fish or escape enemies unless they have help from someone else. Thus, a healed femur indicates that someone else helped that person, rather than abandoning them and saving only themselves.

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> Cluster berries, from raspberries to pineapples, are never poisonous. I know nothing but that still seems too generalized that it doesn’t have an exception somewhere in the world.

You won't find enough berries, never mind edibles berries if everyone in your area suddenly shifted to foraging. Game animals would be exhausted quickly or they would migrate further out from human settlements. Even if you had the skills hunting or foraging isn't all that useful anywhere around a city, especially if everyone else is doing it.

True, fruit and nut-based food forests, like those in the Pacific Northwest [1], seem to provide a significant, sustainable food source. Berries make a nice dessert + vitamins a few times a year.

Historically here in Maine, the core diet seems to have been seafood, freshwater fish, maize, Capreolinae, game birds, eggs, honey, roots, and greens. While only a tiny fraction of fish/seafood remain, deer are over-populated and make a fine sustainable food source, the limitation mostly being the contemporary appetite for venison.

1. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/indigenous-peoples...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

And a bunch of barbarians will just accept being smelly. And a few barbarians will figure out a different way to fill a bath tub. And life will go on.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…

At a very general level once you move past subsistence farming you become reliant on society to provide your needs. And in turn provide some value that can only come from spending your time on things other than farming. And that is I suppose how civilization advances. Its kind of funny to work backwards though, because even subsistence farmers are reliant on society for protection -- they are farmers not soldiers aft…

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