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Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#251

HOST THE GODDAMN STATUS PAGE ON AZURE FOR FUCKS SAKE. There is zero excuse for this shit. Be professional. Acknowledge reality. It is logically impossible to run your own status page. Trying to do so just wastes everyone else on the internet's time when you have an outage.

You don’t even know what the problem is yet. Stop shouting solutions.

The problem is very clear: the status page is not working as it should.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#252

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Well said,... but why is the water slowing getting hotter?

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#253

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I could not even try to discover which berries are edible without killing myself. Cluster berries, from raspberries to pineapples, are never poisonous. Avoid berries that resemble blueberries or currants unless you're able to identify the plant: we grew up with blueberries and know the leaves, but we avoid anything currant-like because we'd have no idea if they're actually, say, chokeberries. Avoid anything that lo…

> Cluster berries, from raspberries to pineapples, are never poisonous. I know nothing but that still seems too generalized that it doesn’t have an exception somewhere in the world.

You won't find enough berries, never mind edibles berries if everyone in your area suddenly shifted to foraging. Game animals would be exhausted quickly or they would migrate further out from human settlements. Even if you had the skills hunting or foraging isn't all that useful anywhere around a city, especially if everyone else is doing it.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#254

We are seeing issues with requests to Auth0, which I believe is hosted on AWS and has historically gone down when AWS has had issues

Auth0 went down for us as well right when AWS did. At least it's not like those two systems run our entire company...

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#256

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

For the past couple of weeks, I've been a beginner-intermediate mechanic trying to breathe life into an aging car.

Sometime in the next few months, I've to troubleshoot and fix the broken 2 yr. old refrigerator. Someone came and fixed it once, now it's out of warranty and fixing it would cost about 50% of its cost. Meanwhile I'm glad I didn't throw away the 10 yr old refrigerator and just moved it to the garage. We just have to keep going to the garage.

I also have to play the accountant for my consulting business pretty soon. This is a task I had outsourced for years and have now started doing myself.

As stuff gets more specialized, I've started noticing that I'm able to do moderately complicated things better than professionals paid at the 50th - 70th percentile. If I want to get a really good job done, my rule of thumb is to be ready to shell out money in the 90th percentile range and look for references.

In case of AWS, I guess the Greasemonkey scripts are getting too complicated ;)?

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

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We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Many years ago I stood at the window of my comfortable apartment, watching wind and cold rain rage outside. I thought about my cave men ancestors who during such a storm if they needed water would have to go out and get it, getting themselves soaked. If I wanted water, the tap in the kitchen would give it to me, in a nice controlled fashion. If I did feel like having water rain down upon me, my shower would do that,…

At a very general level once you move past subsistence farming you become reliant on society to provide your needs. And in turn provide some value that can only come from spending your time on things other than farming. And that is I suppose how civilization advances. Its kind of funny to work backwards though, because even subsistence farmers are reliant on society for protection -- they are farmers not soldiers after all. I think about this a lot, how important trust is to going anywhere in modern life. And how little choice there is anyways. I also think about how most people don't think about it at all, or very much, and wonder if knowing how fragile we are makes me happier and more productive, or less so.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#259

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Surely we are way past the point where someone knows how the whole thing works, all the way down. I doubt even a very skilled engineer would know how his own machine works all the way down. What I think happens mostly is the skilled dev can use his experience to know where to investigate and where to look for solutions. The question is organisational. Might it be that certain orgs have gotten so convoluted that they…

> There's probably a lot of people with multicloud setups patting themselves on the back at the moment.

And there's probably an equal number troubleshooting why it didn't failover the way it should, while their upper management starts questioning what they're paying for.

Re: Tell HN: AWS appears to be down again

#260

We are barbarians occupying a city built by an advanced civilization, marveling at the hot baths but know nothing about how their builders keep them running. One day, the baths will drain and anyone who remembers how to fill them up will have died.

Surely we are way past the point where someone knows how the whole thing works, all the way down. I doubt even a very skilled engineer would know how his own machine works all the way down. What I think happens mostly is the skilled dev can use his experience to know where to investigate and where to look for solutions. The question is organisational. Might it be that certain orgs have gotten so convoluted that they…

> Surely we are way past the point where someone knows how the whole thing works, all the way down.

I've met a few people who can rightfully lay claim, but yeah, an incredibly rare set of skills.

That said, there is a recent revival in building systems from the ground up. While you can't manufacturer your own transistors, it is quite possible to understand everything from simple logic gates to ALUs to older style CPUs and memory buses.

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