Bad day for developers indeed
Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the blog it sounds like Chrome's will be in a similar state after the update. Just another thing I'll have to navigate to in a tedious manner.
Use Firefox?
I'm into watching telemetry data using tools like Pihole, Wireshark, DNSLookupView. Firefox is the only browser which does not invoke spontaneous connections and gives the user the Freedom to inspect and clear the cookie data. Google notoriously creates VPN tunnels to hide what it is sending and receiving. Your browser preference might determine many people's privacy if the narrative is limited to not so important things to me like speed and ease of use.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#283Out of couriosity: Does anyone know how such decisions are made inside Google? It all seems very opaque.
I'm pretty sure you will not get an answer to this on a public forum.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
Discord does this. Try to find the login cookie. When discord loads, it copies it out of localstorage into a js var and deletes the localstorage. So if you examine localstorage it will be empty. On page unload it copies it back into localstorage. So if you want to see the value, you have to make sure no discord tabs are open in your browser. I believe one reason for this is to prevent self-xss. It's hard for a malici…
Wouldn't this cause problems with multiple tabs/windows? Like, if I have one Discord tab open (so localstorage is cleared) and I open a second one in parallel, will I be logged out in the second one?
I didn't look into it too deeply. Maybe if there are multiple windows they can communicate with each other in some way.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
Use Firefox?
I'm into watching telemetry data using tools like Pihole, Wireshark, DNSLookupView. Firefox is the only browser which does not invoke spontaneous connections and gives the user the Freedom to inspect and clear the cookie data. Google notoriously creates VPN tunnels to hide what it is sending and receiving. Your browser preference might determine many people's privacy if the narrative is limited to not so important th…
> Google notoriously creates VPN tunnels to hide what it is sending and receiving.
I’ve never heard about this, could you provide a source?
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
Browser tools could certainly be un-bundled from the browser itself and distributed behind a "Google Developer" account, with your access cut off if you do something that threatens any of Google's numerous businesses. I believe this is how iOS development works. Admittedly we are very far away from this scenario, but let us not delude ourselves into thinking (a) that it's impossible, or (b) that it's not in Google's…
To what end? What benefit does google get by preventing developers from developing for their product?
They won't prevent developers from developing their product. The change will be an "improvement". It'll be "a new developer focused tool for testing and developing your web sites" or some other marketing speak. Or it'll be an app you install from the chrome store.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#287Cookie quick manager is a pretty good extension for managing cookies in Firefox. It gives you fine-grained control on all cookies for each domain.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#288Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't this cause problems with multiple tabs/windows? Like, if I have one Discord tab open (so localstorage is cleared) and I open a second one in parallel, will I be logged out in the second one?
I didn't look into it too deeply. Maybe if there are multiple windows they can communicate with each other in some way.
"in some way" --> probably postMessage to send the variable to the new tab.
Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
Demand the break up of Google! Now! Email your reps. Tell them this is dangerous and that Google shouldn't be allowed to run the entire web. Take chrome away!
The issue here is that "making a web browser" isn't a sustainable business. You could force Google to spin off Chrome...and then what? The new "Chrome Inc." would probably need to either start integrating ads or start charging money to even have a chance at not immediately going under. The only reason Firefox is even able to exist is Google propping them up with lots of extra money.
It's not sustainable because Google props up its browser with money from other sources. I used to pay for a browser (Omniweb, that I still yearn for) because it was worth it. Most software is worth paying for, strangely.