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GitHub, fuck your name change

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Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Yet another example of corporatist human resources feel good ‘spin’, which decontextualises the historical conditions that give rise to the need for anti-discrimination, equity and diversity issues in the first place.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

#282

I’m a black American and agree with everything that this person in London wrote. It is also a common criticism of the American “left”, and is entirely accurate. For everyone perplexed about black Americans and other people of color walking away from the left, its because you/they don't see us as equals that can be bothered by the exact same things that other Americans can be bothered by: being told what to think, wat…

As a white dude, I feel really ashamed for this even though I'm not involved in this at all. Sorry man, you deserve a better world.

Yes, flog yourself! Repent for your sins! If you draw enough blood on your back, the plague will stop!

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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post #250

I’m a black American and agree with everything that this person in London wrote. It is also a common criticism of the American “left”, and is entirely accurate. For everyone perplexed about black Americans and other people of color walking away from the left, its because you/they don't see us as equals that can be bothered by the exact same things that other Americans can be bothered by: being told what to think, wat…

> the American “left” I like that you quote it there. I don't understand why aren't there more real left (no quotes) organizations or parties gaining traction in the US. It seems as if it should have happened "naturally" one or two generations ago.

I don't understand why aren't there more real left (no quotes) organizations or parties gaining traction in the US.

There are. The Democratic Socialists of America has grown a lot over the past few years. They even managed to get four member elected Congress this last election cycle.

It seems as if it should have happened "naturally" one or two generations ago.

I have no evidence, but I suspect McCarthyism and the following hard crackdown on leftists that followed during the cold war greatly slowed down this "natural" growth. It took a generation removed from the cold war for this growth to start up again.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

#284

...and nobody in the valley seems to be aware of the etymology for "slave" :)

Because it doesn't matter. Slavery isn't an just an old concept.

What, so now words don't matter? Funny how that works, if only somebody pointed this out in the very beginning...

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

#285

> Last summer an(other) unarmed black man was killed by police in Minneapolis, Minnesota. [...] So, what was tech’s big song and dance? Let’s remove offensive terminology from our collective lexicon. There were several casualties, white/blacklist are examples of words deemed to be too offensive to use. In my memory this started way before the recent BLM protests - around the time CoC (Code of Conduct) was being intro…

> around the time CoC (Code of Conduct) was being introduced. The things about the CoCs that really annoyed me: 1. People would literally go around projects and send pull requests just to change the code of conduct to improve the wording even tho no one had made any complaints or anything. Anytime a CoC get added you would see more people mess around with the CoC than the code. It was like people just wanted to look…

That fast.ai post is insane. I feel really bad for him. I watched Lex Fridman's interview with him and he seemed very nice and thoughtful.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

#287
Yet another sad attempt to impose your narrow focused view of the world on it.

The author seems to have forgotten: There are people outside of the US who work in tech.

As shocking as it might be to him, they don't wake up in the morning thinking "O gosh, I'm white, I need to repent". They actually read and write things like "master-slave" and not for a second think about what went wrong 150 yrs ago in some far away land. An no: Not thinking that isn't racism.

Yet we all have to endure your petty fights and identity politics.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

#288
In world history dating back several thousand years or more, slaves have existed. It is nobody today's fault this happened. I do not see how using a medieval historical reality to be offensive. Master slave hardrive settings on IDE drives for instance, who were offended by that?

What is next? What about the byzantine generals problem? The byzantines, I am sure someone will dig up some dirt in them and label them off limits.

Is it now offensive to say "Slaving around?"

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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post #12

Though I initially sympathized with the name change from master to main (cause I don't care what it is called), I am now more of the opinion that this kind of window-dressing might actually be harmful as it distracts from addressing the root cause. It is a bit complicated as the name change in itself is not bad, but given the context, and that it distracts from addressing real issues it actually is. Same thing with p…

> this kind of window-dressing might actually be harmful as it distracts from addressing the root cause

The root cause can't be addressed by the same people who reap the benefits of this system, because it's so deep in its core that it would require substantial change, possibly breaking the system itself.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

#290

A good article about this naming issue - https://reason.com/2020/08/12/is-your-master-bedroom-racist/ For me, it seems like since no one dares to solve real problems like Police violence, income gap, real racism that's ingrained in the society (like people calling the police because a black guy is wandering around), they pick up some non-issue and dress it like a problem and solve it.

So you think Github should try and solve those issues, I agree.

Yes, they can stop their ICE contract for example. Or they can stop fixing non-issues for just the illusion of caring.
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