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I know my comment will be lost in a sea of voices, but I need to share my experience _somewhere_ else other than amazon reviews. I got my fiancé two Christmas presents this year - both bought off Amazon. One was an electronic keyboard that was dead on arrival, the other was a snuggie type blanket that started falling apart yesterday. Both items had thousands of 5 star reviews. I usually go somewhere (anywhere) else b…
Fakespot can help reveal which products have misleading reviews https://www.fakespot.com/ Obviously it isn't perfect but it does help.
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#282One of my areas to watch: solid state relays.
Here we have yet another fake Fotek solid state relay on Amazon.[1] Note the "Made in China".
Here's the real thing.[2] Note the "Taiwan made" from the real Fotek. Costs a lot more. That's because it will actually handle the rated current. The fakes are notorious for overheating and burning out. The real thing has overheat and surge protection, will shut off if it overheats, and can stand a big short term overload for motor starting or when a short is in the process of tripping the circuit breaker upstream.
Here's a similar solid state relay from China, from the actual manufacturer.
They actually provide a table which shows how much they exaggerate the ratings. They're over-rated by 2X for a resistive load, and 6x for an inductive load. "For a motor with rated current of 15A and the motor is inductive load, the formula is 15A x 6 = 90A, so you should choose to buy 100A solid state relay".
For a little extra, you can have your own fake label. Minimum order 200 pcs.
Here's a fake Fotek.[4] What's amusing is that this is the actual manufacturer in China selling the fakes. They're in Guangdong, and they're selling under their own name, but with a fake label. No shame.
There are legit manufacturers in China selling solid state relays.[5] They put their own name on the product, show pictures of the inside their rather grubby factory, and have realistic numbers on their data sheets, along with pictures of UL certification documents. About 4x more expensive than the fakes. If you're in China and are building industrial equipment which needs these components, you need ones that won't fail and shut down a manufacturing line.
Here's a teardown of a fake. [6] The fakes are just solid state switches with power ratings way beyond what their components are good for. UL warning notice about fake Fotek solid state relays.[7] UL issued that notice six years ago, and they're still on Amazon and eBay.
[1] https://www.amazon.com/SSR-25-DC-AC-Solid-State-Relay/dp/B07...
[2] https://www.fotek.com.tw/en-gb/product-category/143
[3] https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/1PCS-SSR-10-DA-DC-Con...
[4] https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/High-quality-SSR-25DA...
[5] https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/SSR-S25DA-H-DC-TO-AC_...
[6] https://youtu.be/DxEhxjvifyY
[7] https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ul-warns-of-solid-s...
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#285Perhaps I'm in the minority of frequent amazon users, but I don't buy anything from 3rd party sellers anymore. There is simply too much fraud. In practice, this means that I often need to skip past amazon entirely and go straight to the product manufacturer, sometimes paying more, just to be sure I'm not being screwed.
Even stuff sold directly by Amazon could be co-mingled with counterfeit inventory from 3rd party sellers.
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#286Here's one solution: don't buy cheap garbage. Yes, someone makes a $23 drone. It is cheap plastic shit from China. Do you really need to buy it, and then throw it in landfill a week (or two days) later after it breaks? Did OP reeeeeally expect a $23 drone to be on the up-and-up and NOT end up as landfill? OP is a bit oblivious to his impact on the environment. This race to the bottom for the cheapest crap is what ins…
I've heard this phrased as "buy once, cry once". A few years ago my New Year's resolution was to stop buying cheap crap, and to consciously save up for nice things. This had a few unexpected consequences: 1. I accumulate less junk and produce less waste. 2. I buy less stuff and end up spending less money in the long run, since there's only so much you can save up for at once. 3. My purchases bring me much more pleasu…
> the anticipation and research heightens the joy of actually getting the thing
I've found that the research and thinking process is often the most fun part, and that I can replace that little dopamine hit from buying a bunch of cheap crap by window shopping for nicer, more expensive things for the future.
Then when I am finally ready to buy something nice, I've already done most of the research to know exactly what I want/need.
It also helps filter out stuff I don't really need or care about, since I tend to forget about that junk if I don't impulse buy it. Put junk in your cart but don't buy it until you sleep on it, and 9 times out of 10 you realize you don't really need it or even care about it once the novelty is gone.
I end up buying less throwaway crap, and I end up mostly very pleased with the nicer things I do buy.
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There is a reason you aren't afraid of getting poisoned when you eat at restaurants, and it isn't because every restaurant owner cares about poisoning you but because the government have made the common practices which led to food poisoning illegal.
Here is an upvote for engaging. Kind of a non-sequitur, no? I was talking about toy drones.
Batteries are regulated, as is the type of paint used in kids toys.
Even with regulation companies still try to sneak in lead paint(!) and batteries occasionally burst into flame.
No regulation would mean parents would have to carry around lead paint test kits...
Review sites cannot keep up with the deluge of brands, and some aspects of product quality, such as longevity, are impossible for reviewers to adequately test in a reasonable amount of time. (A review that certifies a dish washer model last sold 10 years ago will indeed last 10 years isn't of much use!)
And in regards to a comment below, those toy drones likely charge with USB!
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#288There's a somewhat pervasive idea that advertising and brand recognition are coercive tools that will ultimately die out, replaced by better objective information about products. I'm kind of partial to this idea myself. But increasingly we seem a long way from achieving this. Amazon reviews have become such garbage, I've fallen back to pretty much relying on name brands as my placeholder for product quality. There's…
Brands aren't perfect either. For example Volvo had a reputation for making great safe cars. The brand is now owned by a company with a reputation for making cars that disintegrate and obliterate the occupants in crash tests. The same is true of Arc'teryx, Jaguar, and many other well known brands that have been sold off to companies with terrible reputations for quality. Ultimately the only way to guarantee quality w…
Can you point out specific examples of how changing ownership has affected quality of their cars?
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#289Their AI systems can’t detect when sellers bait and switch because there’s no way to detect this that doesn’t have a massive false positive rate, and they aren’t willing to spend a single dollar on ‘app store’ reviewing product changes by third parties.
Another demonstration of this chasm can be found by searching for ‘claritin’. There are pages of duplicates, terrible and missing product photos, and a wide array of metadata errors due to human inconsistency by the sellers listing the product on the marketplace. Fixing this would require human curation, since their AI curation is incapable of doing it, and so Amazon simply allows the rot to spread unchecked.
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Has any retail company ever gotten better after being bought out (thinking NewEgg, Toys R Us, Guitar Center...)? Some incentive is fucked up if decent businesses are being run into the ground.
Toys R Us and Guitar Center are among the retailers bought by private equity firms explicitly so the investors could wring the value out of the company and throw the remains in the dumpster. G.I. Joes was another. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/toys-r-... By the way the remnants of Toys R Us are now owned by Tru Toys and they are looking to make a comeback.
What does that mean in practice?