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Post by balls187 »

woofie11 wrote: post #279
balls187 wrote: post #273

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Thanks. I agree with your concern. Apple's support answer paints a different picture. "Your HealthKit data, including your health records, remains under your complete control. You can choose to use iCloud to keep your data up to date across your devices, choose to share your data with a third-party app, choose to share your data with Apple under the Improve Health Records program, or choose to back up your data to an…

I trust Apple as much as I trust Yahoo or Google. Which is to say, Google was honest 5-10 years ago, and Yahoo was honest 15-20 years ago. Apple is honest today, but whether it's honest in 5-10 years is TBD. This document is a little bit better than the general privacy policy, but I'd still want to be asked. "By default, iCloud automatically keeps your Health app data, including health records, up to date across your…

> but I'd still want to be asked. "By default, iCloud automatically keeps your Health app data, including health records, up to date across your devices." This is different from your interpretation (opt-in versus opt-out).

You are right. This is a meaningful distinction.

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Post by photojosh »

LolWolf wrote: post #169
MikeKusold wrote: post #156

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Garmin has been crushing it with their smartwatches. * App store with 3rd party apps and faces. * Always on screen * Physical buttons (Vivoactive is mostly touchscreen oriented, but all their "athlete" watches use buttons) * Week long battery life - Even running GPS tracking for 12 hours straight leaves enough battery for the next day. The biggest downside to the Garmin is trying to figure out which watch to buy. The…

My main problem with Garmin, and the one that gets me really hard when camping, is the fact that Connect requires internet in order to be able to see even basic statistics. I absolutely love my Garmin Vivomove Style, but because of the small screen I can't really see any activity other than very basic things, which requires that I fall back to my phone app... which doesn't work when camping or hiking because I don't…

I was bitten by this just the other weekend. Out in the middle of nowhere for an organised event, and the organisers said we had to use the backup route. I had it downloaded to my phone, but Garmin Connect won't work at all without an internet connection.

Ended up just using my phone for navigation, and even though I was recording GPS and heart rate the whole time, I'd only used 50% battery after 14 hours riding. Nice.

There was another guy at the campsite who was looking for someone who had downloaded the route. I AirDropped it to him, and he transferred it to his Wahoo bike computer with no trouble.

For shorter rides/runs, I use the WorkOutdoors app on the Apple Watch. It's only battery life that's an issue when the activity is longer than 6 hours. Just this morning I had the opportunity to go for a run a bit out of my normal zones, so within a minute I had sketched out a route on the phone and transferred it over to the watch. (That some of the paths I'd used didn't actually exist anymore was a separate issue, but I've already updated OpenStreetMap to fix that.)

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Post by m-p-3 »

ce4 wrote: post #145
VectorLock wrote: post #124

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Man never heard of this Gadgetbridge thing. Thanks for bringing it up. The awful apps are the worst part about these kind of Chinesium devices.

The first setup to get started can be a bit rough, especially with server based key fetch + pairing. Gadgetbridge's issue tracker will help if you get stuck.

There's also a bunch of us on the Matrix channel https://app.element.io/#/room/#gadgetbridge:matrix.org

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Post by m-p-3 »

Twirrim wrote: post #127
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #112

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You can get most of the Pebble features you listed on the Amazfit Bip and Gadgetbridge. It's not perfect, but it's the closest thing to what the Pebble used to be. See this thread from below here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25269500

I like my Amazfit Bip, but the integration is no where near as smooth as Pebble was. I only stopped using my Pebble because I had the first gen screen corruption issues. By the time they were getting to be an issue, the writing was on the wall for them.

It's silly, but I miss having my TOTP codes on my wrist.

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Post by happymellon »

m-p-3 wrote: post #264
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #210

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Just as a counter, I'm a (current) Pebble user, and I bought an Apple Watch and returned it. I don't need fitness tracking, the Apple Watch's screen was a little too hard to see outside, and the UI was too cluttered for the type of super-quick tasks I want to do on a watch. (I also really really disliked the lack of an always-on screen, which didn't exist until a few months later.) I like my Pebble because it's a wat…

I bought the Amazfit Bip because the format came close to what Pebble was, but I still miss third-party apps and the timeline UI, which made so much sense on a device that focus mainly on telling the time and upcoming events. Hopefully the folks working on Rebble will make a nice open-source OS that can be ported to other watches out there.

I have a Bip and it is really great, except for the GPS which takes 10 minutes to get a lock and no 3rd party apps.

Everything else is perfect. Although I try to track my runs with it, so it is sadly a big hit against it.

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Post by xsmasher »

jariel wrote: post #53
breck wrote: post #25

Apple was smart not to compete on the low-end for watches. Median income in the USA is $68,703. Why would someone spend 1/25 of 1 percent of their income on something that they wear 100% of the time? That makes no sense. I shell out $200-$300 each year for the latest FitBit (Apple Watch is promising, but that battery life :(. The sleep tracking is gold).

Except nobody actually thinks this way, so there's that. $300-400 is a high ticket item, point blank. Aside from Apple, the world is owned by entities that compete mostly on price.

I recall an interview where the palmpilot folks opined that $300 was the magic price point where someone could still make a purchase without consulting their spouse.

Obviously there's strong middle-class bias built into that number, but I don't feel like it has moved much in decades.

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Post by vanous »

happymellon wrote: post #285
m-p-3 wrote: post #264

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I bought the Amazfit Bip because the format came close to what Pebble was, but I still miss third-party apps and the timeline UI, which made so much sense on a device that focus mainly on telling the time and upcoming events. Hopefully the folks working on Rebble will make a nice open-source OS that can be ported to other watches out there.

I have a Bip and it is really great, except for the GPS which takes 10 minutes to get a lock and no 3rd party apps. Everything else is perfect. Although I try to track my runs with it, so it is sadly a big hit against it.

Make sure your aGPS is updated and also that your time is correct (timezone ). I had the same issues ( not 10 minutes but not instant ) , now am getting fix in seconds.

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Post by ce4 »

modeless wrote: post #277
ce4 wrote: post #266

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The measured data is for my Bip S lite (which is a bit smaller than the Bip S). A bump of 1mm high with an area of less than 1 square centimeter is not noticable imho. My other watches also have bumps (nato strap seams, the gshock's rear plate is uneven by 1mm easy, and seiko's glass rear window...)

The spec page I linked to showing 11.4 mm is specifically for the Bip S Lite.

Maybe the lugs are included in the official specs' height/thickness. If you put it flat on the table the backside doesnt touch the surface because the lugs protrude a bit - maybe to protect the sensor from scratching. I ignored the lugs though as they're wrapping around my wrist and don't add to the thickness.

Or maybe i measure again to be sure.

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Post by drewzero1 »

will0 wrote: post #99
jerlam wrote: post #85

Smartwatches have fallen so far from their peak. In 2015, Pebble had a watch that had: - an app store, third party apps, third party watch faces, and a developer ecosystem - always on screen that didn't require a button press or specific arm gesture, and worked in bright, normally lit conditions - physical buttons instead of tiny buttons on a tiny screen barely larger than the finger pressing it - week long battery l…

Pebble may be long gone, but there are plenty of people still using them with 90% of the functionality still intact!

I do love seeing all the other pebble people show up whenever smartwatches come up as a topic. After a few years of looking into smartwatches (and working on my own ATTiny/ATMega/ESP32 smartwatch project) I finally bought a Pebble Time Steel this spring. I had expected the Pebble hype to wear off after a bit, but so far it's lived up to pretty much all of my expectations.

I don't even have a Rebble account yet, but it's surprised me how much still works and how much use I can get out of it in my daily life.

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Post by newfromblammo »

bibabaloo wrote: post #223
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #198

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Mind if I ask what issue you have with their practices? I try to be a conscious consumer so I’m curious if anything you know would concern me as well.

Mainly that they sell health data (anonymized and aggregated, but still), to undisclosed third parties and they're not super upfront about it.

This right here. When I see a twenty buck wearable I immediately think surveillance.
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