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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by miguelmota »

vishesh92 wrote: post #210
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

Found another reason for me to not get a Mac

You can't go wrong with a ThinkPad. I switched from Mac to a T480 with Arch for dev work and it's been great.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by goatinaboat »

valuearb wrote: post #182
goatinaboat wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not like Apple us building a database of apps you’ve launched linked to your address and social security number. Linked to your identity if you have a credit card saved for say iTunes.

Any proof of that audacious claim?

Any proof of that audacious claim?

Proof that if you are signed into any of their cloud services they know who you are? Is this a serious question?

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by boogies »

nxpnsv wrote: post #223
nateberkopec wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Explanation of the keyboard behavior: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24839101

But no fix :(

There are many fixes, none of which are likely to be incredibly popular. Here’s one: https://elementary.io/

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by initplus »

zmmmmm wrote: post #268
simonbarker87 wrote: post #232

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I have no problem with checking binaries when I launch them for security. I imagine many of the virus checking apps for windows probably call home with similar information. I doubt very much I’m leaky in any personal information. What is frustrating is they didn’t handle this situation like they do if I’m offline - don’t get a ping back in less than 500ms or whatever? Go ahead and open anyway. would have solved this…

> don’t get a ping back in less than 500ms or whatever? Go ahead and open anyway how do you do that without defeating the security? Now a malicious attacker just has to wait for a moment when you aren't connected before launching their payload.

The feature needs to be implemented using some kind of regularly updated local database, rather than requiring a phone home every time.

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Post by simonbarker87 »

zmmmmm wrote: post #268
simonbarker87 wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no problem with checking binaries when I launch them for security. I imagine many of the virus checking apps for windows probably call home with similar information. I doubt very much I’m leaky in any personal information. What is frustrating is they didn’t handle this situation like they do if I’m offline - don’t get a ping back in less than 500ms or whatever? Go ahead and open anyway. would have solved this…

> don’t get a ping back in less than 500ms or whatever? Go ahead and open anyway how do you do that without defeating the security? Now a malicious attacker just has to wait for a moment when you aren't connected before launching their payload.

Well it already just lets you launch the app if you’re not connected to the internet so my answer would be “no different to the situation we have now”?

Also, my understanding is that it’s a hash of the binary being checked so if it failed the verification the first time when you were connected you would have received a warning and the OS would block that executable on your system or given a warning or something? Not sure tbh.

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Post by pmontra »

horsawlarway wrote: post #256
elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

People chose to use Apple because it seems like a benevolent dictatorship. And frankly, a benevolent dictatorship is basically the best government you can have, as long as you're part of the "in-group" who doesn't push boundaries, doesn't cause trouble, and supports the supreme ruler, Kim jon... cough* Apple. --- The problem is that no matter how good the dictatorship might be today, it will eventually bite you. You…

> Apple is still in the golden phase, but I'm not really convinced they're going to be there much longer.

The honeymoon is already over. A post like yours would have got several downvotes up to less than two years ago. I noticed that honest critics to Apple are tolerated now, since at least about one year ago.

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Post by jjoonathan »

itp wrote: post #276
horsawlarway wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People chose to use Apple because it seems like a benevolent dictatorship. And frankly, a benevolent dictatorship is basically the best government you can have, as long as you're part of the "in-group" who doesn't push boundaries, doesn't cause trouble, and supports the supreme ruler, Kim jon... cough* Apple. --- The problem is that no matter how good the dictatorship might be today, it will eventually bite you. You…

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil > "Don't be evil" is a phrase used in Google's corporate code of conduct, which it also formerly preceded as a motto. > Following Google's corporate restructuring under the conglomerate Alphabet Inc. in October 2015, Alphabet took "Do the right thing" as its motto, also forming the opening of its corporate code of conduct.[1][2][3][4][5] The original motto was retain…

Right, but it's funny how these things tend to correlate. For example, the US Department of War became the US Department of Defense in 1949, arguably around the time when its primary business switched from Defense to War.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by AsyncAwait »

elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

And I keep hearing how Linux is a toy whereas macOS 'just works'.
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