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RIAA’s YouTube-dl takedown ticks off developers and GitHub’s CEO

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Re: RIAA’s YouTube-dl takedown ticks off developers and GitHub’s CEO

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Why is this any different from recording a TV broadcast? It seems to me that the same reasoning which made that legal (and there was a fight to do so!) should also allow anyone to record anything that is sent to them on their personal device.

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I checked it out and am kind of on the fence about one file = one repo - especially SQLite. It's mostly because I remember filesystems from my university time and trying to implement one in a file myself. Continuously adding data is fine, but when you remove data either you leave a "hole" in the file and have to keep track of the "empty" blocks, or you shift everything to fill the hole. Off-by-one errors corrupt file…

https://sqlite.org/lang_vacuum.html

Thank you. So my intuition was correct about deletions creating non-contiguous data. I wonder how often VACUUM is run by fossil.

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I have been thinking about leaving github for a while. It is a very good platform, but as time passes, I realized I wanted to be more in control of my projects. Yesterday, I moved about 250 repos away to a gitea instance. Transition required a bit of tinkering (a few scripts) but went smoothly. The good sides are: - very fast, a lot faster than github for pushing/pulling but also the web UI is a lot faster - I'm in t…

Couldn't you retain the social aspect by mirroring the repos on Github? Linux does this.

Yes, I am thinking about this.

Re: RIAA’s YouTube-dl takedown ticks off developers and GitHub’s CEO

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post #175

I have been thinking about leaving github for a while. It is a very good platform, but as time passes, I realized I wanted to be more in control of my projects. Yesterday, I moved about 250 repos away to a gitea instance. Transition required a bit of tinkering (a few scripts) but went smoothly. The good sides are: - very fast, a lot faster than github for pushing/pulling but also the web UI is a lot faster - I'm in t…

If your hosting provider is in a country with DMCA-like laws, they can be targeted the same way GitHub was and would probably comply the same way as well. So was there really a point?

The difference being that if this happens, I can spawn an instance elsewhere and just change the DNS. I have hourly ZFS based backups to my own server, it would take a few hour max to restore everything.

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Repo packages moved slowly, pip or building from source was often the only way of reliably getting it to work.

Pip is a repo.

Not in the same light as preconfigured repos in Ubuntu et al.

I don’t think pip is even installed by default under most distributions, and Iirc some actively discourage its use. It’s also Supply chain insecure when compared to trusted repos.

But congratulations on catching the technicality!

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https://sqlite.org/lang_vacuum.html

Thank you. So my intuition was correct about deletions creating non-contiguous data. I wonder how often VACUUM is run by fossil.

I'm no expert on the code, but vacuum comes up a lot when grepping the source. For example, it looks like it always runs vacuum after a remote clone (clone_cmd in https://www.fossil-scm.org/xfer/file?name=src/clone.c&ci=tip) and after importing from another SCM (import_cmd in https://www.fossil-scm.org/xfer/file?name=src/import.c&ci=ti...).

Re: RIAA’s YouTube-dl takedown ticks off developers and GitHub’s CEO

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post #284

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If your hosting provider is in a country with DMCA-like laws, they can be targeted the same way GitHub was and would probably comply the same way as well. So was there really a point?

The difference being that if this happens, I can spawn an instance elsewhere and just change the DNS. I have hourly ZFS based backups to my own server, it would take a few hour max to restore everything.

Good point, thank you.

Re: RIAA’s YouTube-dl takedown ticks off developers and GitHub’s CEO

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> But for fad-driven and taste-driven industries, privacy [sic] has a notable impact on creator's earnings. Do you have any data that doesn't make the ridiculous and false assertion that 1 download = 1 lost sale, with which to back that claim? Because from what I've read, piracy has the opposite effect.

I'm not claiming that 1 download = 1 lost sale. But it's well-documented that piracy negatively affects music, film, and game studio income. See, e.g., https://www.ipi.org/ipi_issues/detail/the-true-cost-of-sound... Piracy may the opposite effect for software but it definitely has a negative effect on entertainment related IP.

(This user was lying, and their link is, as 'dredmorbius notes, a thinktank funded by Exxon and the Koch brothers.)

https://www.engadget.com/2017-09-22-eu-suppressed-study-pira...

https://gizmodo.com/the-eu-suppressed-a-300-page-study-that-...

Re: RIAA’s YouTube-dl takedown ticks off developers and GitHub’s CEO

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There are other options, e.g. hosting somewhere where automatic anti-circumvention takedowns aren't a thing and the RIAA would have to go through a proper court process.

Why add a circumvention method in the first place. If record labels want to stop users from downloading their content, that's more than fine. It's a giant attack vector for such a small net benefit.

> Why add a circumvention method in the first place.

To support legal use-cases such as archival?

Re: RIAA’s YouTube-dl takedown ticks off developers and GitHub’s CEO

#290

RIAA is a fucking cartel. Why would anyone support them..?

Cartels often mint money.

Of course, for their owners.

It OBVIOUSLY reasonable to have three private corporations owning the majority of modern musical output... and they even have a little club where they discuss pricing! How quaint...

The outrageous thing is why the fuck we as a society defend these corporations, when they have a literal monopoly on what they’re selling, and the monopoly is guaranteed by the government of every western country

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