Those look like Premium Economy seats based on their generous width, not the crushing 17"-and-change width of typical Economy seats.
All the pictures are of women in the seats. Men often have broader shoulders and larger upper arms. If I sit next to another man, we sometimes make contact on the upper arms for most the flight. The wings seem to take up a couple inches themselves, so it could become too cramped horizontally to be comfortable.
New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
#282It's really easy to claim to make it easier to sleep in economy by adding a chair from short haul business class.. This doesn't fit in at all with making the seats as light and thin as possible to save weight and increase available space (for more legroom or more seats) A much cheaper, smaller and simpler option would just have to have the head rest paddings that have small foldable wings that exist already on slight…
Personally i dont feel like the flipping head rests provides enough support, to my head at all, and even less enough to support my bosy, so i really think the design here has some merits in this regard!
Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
The rendering seems to be 2-2 seating, which is definitely more of a business class configuration.
2-3-2 in Economy seems to be a very common inter-continental configuration.
On 787s, 3-3-3 seems like the standard.
Not sure what Airbus is up to, but I'm guessing they're not selling many planes if their selling point is "higher fuel consumption for every economy passenger!"
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
I must admit, when travelling I sort of accept a lower level of privacy. Other people who probably have location, purchase, or photographic data about my trip All the governments and airports involved of course Star Bucks saw my credit card appear for the first time across HK and Japan, hopefully the last time JR Rail Companies, all of the train stations NaviTime, the transit app company Google would know pretty much…
Please don’t use code blocks for any sort of text other than code. They’re nearly unreadable on mobile.
You can get an extension/userstyle for your browser so that code blocks will not bother you anymore.
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
VC returns are not what you think they are. There is a lot of dumb money floating around and the long term returns of quite a few funds are much lower than what you might think. A couple of funds outperform the remainder quite handily which results in an average that looks acceptable but quite a few people lost a lot of $ on becoming an LP of a badly managed fund. That won't stop the fund managers from making out lik…
> There is a lot of dumb money floating around I like to refer to funding and acquisitions in terms of Juiceros, equivalent to $120M. Instagram was purchased for about 8.3 Juiceros.
Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
#286To drop some personal anecdote.. By far the best sleep I've had on an aircraft was an Alitalia flight in the early 2000s, a 747 from Italy to Hong Kong, economy class. The upholstery was thin worn-down carpet, the seat felt like plywood with metal reinforcements in important places, hopes of in-flight entertainment were confined to headphones operated by a wheel-dial fixed the the seat, there was nothing as fancy as…
Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
#287Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don’t use code blocks for any sort of text other than code. They’re nearly unreadable on mobile.
Please don't blame the commenter. Criticise the people behind HN for introducing this user hostile design and refusing to fix it for many years. You can get an extension/userstyle for your browser so that code blocks will not bother you anymore.
For instance:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.github.hidr...
And plenty of others.
The 'people behind HN' are fewer in number than you would likely guess and are working hard to keep the community on the rails, on top of being responsible for the development. It is not as though they are drowning in capacity.
Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
#288> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…
> This could be the worst idea ever. Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie This seems to be uniform across all surveillance technology. The purported convenience is so laughably minor that it's almost a parody. Like Alexa - people are willing to have a Big Brother-esque speaker inside their homes for the convenience of playing some…
Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
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..which you can turn off or disable..
Can you? No matter how many damn Google Assistant settings I disable in how many fractal menus, it STILL "helpfully" pops up if I say out loud "ok google"! Like, "heyy I noticed you're trying to talk to me though I'm disabled, would you like to enable me?" Stop spying on me you piece of malware.
And, still, I can install LineageOS or other privacy-respecting systems on my phone. We don't have any custom firmware for an Echo or Alexa yet (to the best of my knowledge.)
Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
#290Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This could be the worst idea ever. Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie This seems to be uniform across all surveillance technology. The purported convenience is so laughably minor that it's almost a parody. Like Alexa - people are willing to have a Big Brother-esque speaker inside their homes for the convenience of playing some…
Voice control of smart devices is extremely convenient. I can only imagine what a quality of life improvement it is for someone with physical disabilities.
And why must all the data enabling the convenience be ripped away from my exclusive control and sent back to some centralized store?