No way that is an economy cabin. And they chose a very petite model to sit in the chair. Economy is only going to become more miserable over time as people become taller and wider and airlines continue their war of attrition for low fares.
New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy
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#32> In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. Wow, marketing fluff much? They just want to add something to check for closed eyes. Not exactly facial recognition.
It’s tough to defend CNN... but it has to recognize faces to do that right? :)
I think people generally consider facial recognition meaning to recognize your face, not just that one exists.
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#33I always lean forward on the tray table. I find resting my head / getting it horizontal is far more important than anything for the rest of my body. Is this just me? I get the sense that very little is optimized for this. The next person reclining their seat makes it harder to fit my head on the tray table, for example. Conflicting resting positions!
Not just you. I'm fairly large so I can't lean forward on the tray table, but the only way I can sleep in an airplane is to lean forward on the front seat while resting my head on my arms (like this https://external-preview.redd.it/W6xGQW43ROL6XltdnBo1MbMO4EJ... but imagine my arms on top of the seat in front, my head on top of my arms). I actually prefer it when the seat in front of me is reclined.. makes it super comfortable for me to get some shut eye.
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#34Looks like a fundamentally acceptable design change, which will probably be white-anted out of deployment on cost, or fashion grounds.
I think seating in airlines demands regulation. I don't think we will see change here without it, because unlike Premium Economy and Business, where pricing differentiation justifies the spend (the increase in revenue outweighs the engineering costs significantly: Aircraft would be viable long haul solely based on Business and Premium already) there is no pricepoint increase in economy the airlines are willing to make, without being obligated to make it.
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#35isn't the real issue the space is limited because jet fuel is too expensive? Both in dollars to get it and cost to planet earth. Seems like the space available for seats per dollar spent will get much better with EPA or NPA (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21436838) and NPA with the stuff happening at places like https://terrapower.com/ seems very promising.
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#36wish they made double or triple decker capsule hotel style beds for long flights.
I’d love a capsule-hotel-style option. I don’t care how cramped it is. I feel like you could stack some bunks that take up the same cubic-space-per-seat as existing seats. I only need enough space to lie sideways with my phone in front of my face and a USB port and I’d travel a lot lot more. Context: Physically disabled and have issues sitting on chairs for longer than 1-2hrs before my legs are in excruciating pain,…
> I only need enough space to lie sideways with my phone in front of my face
This sounds like it'd get a lot more uncomfortable than sitting pretty quickly.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
FAA regulations require the ability to evacuate the cabin in 90 seconds .
90 seconds as measured by non-realistic volunteers in Toulouse and/or Everett who aren't actually afraid for their lives :(
I'm not sure if you think that people afraid for their lives would be faster or slower.
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#38Those look like Premium Economy seats based on their generous width, not the crushing 17"-and-change width of typical Economy seats.
The rendering seems to be 2-2 seating, which is definitely more of a business class configuration.
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#39> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design.
Um, what
> In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too.
> The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE.
This could be the worst idea ever. Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie? To me this sounds like they wanted to add facial recognition regardless, so they found a problem to their solution.
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#40Those look like Premium Economy seats based on their generous width, not the crushing 17"-and-change width of typical Economy seats.
All the pictures are of women in the seats. Men often have broader shoulders and larger upper arms. If I sit next to another man, we sometimes make contact on the upper arms for most the flight. The wings seem to take up a couple inches themselves, so it could become too cramped horizontally to be comfortable.
A friends has been one of those models for airline print ads. She also is incredibly petite due to a digestive issue that keeps her from digesting calories and nutrients properly. It's a bit disturbing that she's so popular for that type of advertising.