I can't use firefox since they decided I need to enter 6 char code to verify my password. Oh... this code never arrives to my google mailbox.
Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
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Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#282The biggest advertising company in history tries to kill blocking advertisements in their browser? How am I not surprised. I bet this move is also to kill the workings of extensions like DecentralEyes and others that try to protect users from being tracked. The whole changing of the API into a "sure we'll block that URL for ya, sometimes maybe" model reeks of increasing user tracking. They'll work out the kinks to le…
They are not trying to kill advertisements. They want to replace API to provide better performance. That's about it. ad blocking extensions won't disappear. May be some will, and new extensions emerge.
They are killing the functionality that has supported robust adblocking for a long, long time. Any extensions that replace the current model will be less effective.
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#283ublock origin is non-negotiable
so long, chrome!
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
This of course. Why is anyone in the least surprised that Google doesn't want the ads that fund Chrome (and everything else they do) to be blocked by the users of Chrome. Shall Google fund our nice things (like Firefox, Chrome, gmail, google maps, etc etc) with hopes and dreams in place of cold hard cash? The audacity. Clearly an unpopular opinion here, but anyway: I'm happy to let a few ads slip through (which I wil…
> I'm happy to let a few ads slip through ... But should that mean letting the fox guard the henhouse though? The problem here is that the largest ad provider also controls the largest ad display platform (i.e., Chrome), and is using the latter to benefit the former.
Ironically, developers helped create the henhouse they’re now worried the fox might get, by only using Chrome.
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#285This is the point in the dominance cycle where the dominant player decides they no longer need to be the fastest or the most secure and that their dominance will allow them to coast along doing their thing. There’s nothing particularly inevitable about what happens next, but let’s hope they get an IE6-sized kick in the teeth.
Many many people use adblockers now. The amount of users they will alienate would be very high.
But there will still be adblockers. Safari still has them, manifest v3 Chrome will too. They work great and the user doesn't need to hand over all of their browsing information to the adblocker for it to work.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh no, he doesn't think they are stupid, just that they don't know the difference between browsers. If my mechanic mounted a new transmission or something that wasn't the same brand as the one mounted before, and told me "it's the new version", I couldn't care less as long as it worked as intended. I don't know anything about transmissions, so from my point of view I have no way of knowing if what he's telling me is…
This reminds me that such people also think that the visual experience of browsing the internet is somehow "fixed". My impression of social media is that one of its draws (pitfalls actually) is that it gives the impression of different people experiencing the same thing, e.g.: a 100 people like this or 500 people retweeted that. However, as programmers, we should see the internet not as a browser at all. We should se…
>social media ...gives the impression of different people experiencing the same thing
Brilliant!
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#287Meanwhile me laughing in Firefox. I hope no one here is surprised by this G was more and more anti ad-blocking for years now. This is only natural conclusion after u are a de-facto browser monopoly.
You won't be laughing for long, I believe. See this FAQ: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/09/03/mozillas-manifest... Note how they say: "We have no immediate plans to remove blocking webRequest and are working with add-on developers to gain a better understanding of how they use the APIs in question to help determine how to best support them." "No immediate plans" is weasel-speak, as is "[we] are working with add…
You just have to look at how they don't support addons in their new mobile browser to see their true intentions.
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#288hasn't Apple done the same with Safari? https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.zdnet.com/google-amp/arti... curiously i haven't noticed any changes on my day to day browsing habits.
yes, and that is also bad.
I guess the argument is "is it worth it to save some people the privacy issue of extensions phoning home the pages you visit by requiring the ad-blocking to be a rule list and not rely on synchronous webRequest blocking". Safari's webRequest change also blocked even monitoring webRequest URLs, so the current adblocking solution is to only provide a list of blocked patterns, and it seems to work for me.
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#289Meanwhile me laughing in Firefox. I hope no one here is surprised by this G was more and more anti ad-blocking for years now. This is only natural conclusion after u are a de-facto browser monopoly.
You won't be laughing for long, I believe. See this FAQ: https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2019/09/03/mozillas-manifest... Note how they say: "We have no immediate plans to remove blocking webRequest and are working with add-on developers to gain a better understanding of how they use the APIs in question to help determine how to best support them." "No immediate plans" is weasel-speak, as is "[we] are working with add…
Mozilla is free to implement Manifest v3, while preserving the webRequest API in its current state. Maintaining the blocking abilities of the webRequest API would not introduce any incompatibilities with Chrome extensions, because they simply would not use that part of the API.
Re: Google Begins Testing Extension Manifest V3 in Chrome Canary
#290The biggest advertising company in history tries to kill blocking advertisements in their browser? How am I not surprised. I bet this move is also to kill the workings of extensions like DecentralEyes and others that try to protect users from being tracked. The whole changing of the API into a "sure we'll block that URL for ya, sometimes maybe" model reeks of increasing user tracking. They'll work out the kinks to le…
They are not trying to kill advertisements. They want to replace API to provide better performance. That's about it. ad blocking extensions won't disappear. May be some will, and new extensions emerge.
They didn't need to replace the current API, adding a new API would have sufficed. If it was truly better, the major addons would have transitioned it voluntarily. No need to force it.