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Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by jgtrosh »

old-gregg wrote: post #275

I've been quite happy with my 6s, going to replace the battery again soon. But eventually iOS updates will cease coming, yet I absolutely cannot live without a headphone jack. Honest question: how would you even approach the Android? My smartphone is basically a more mobile extension of my laptop: sending document snapshots directly from the phone's camera to my MacOS desktop, starting iMessage conversations with any…

Probably not what you have in mind, but today I saw that KDE interacts well with a phone app to ease device interaction.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.kde.kdecon...

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Post by linuxftw »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #78
tablethnuser wrote: post #20

I've been using the budget Moto G+ line for the past four years. I can upgrade my phone every year around Black Friday and get the latest model for sub $200. The older phones still work well and get handed down to my less tech savvy family members. I'm not really sure what people are paying for when they get those $800+ beasts for phones. When I use a friend's I can tell they are higher quality; either they feel more…

The biggest difference between budget and flagship is the camera, which is very important to a lot of people. There are a lot of people on hacker news (myself included) who hardly ever use their phone cameras and tend to forget that this is such a critical feature to so many people. My personal reason for using flagship devices is simply because I use my phone an absurd amount. If you're using something for hours eve…

Cameras are important to most people in the way that shoes are important to most people. You can take perfectly fine photos with budget phones.

In any case, I have a lot of friends with phones much more expensive than mine. Their photos aren't that great.

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Post by lostgame »

linkregister wrote: post #252
AmericanChopper wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They’ve killed the non Touch Bar MacBook Pro, while the industry laments the Touch Bar’s existence. ‘The industry’ is not Apple’s customer. Apple knows who they want their customers to be, and it makes the products that it knows they want. I’m mostly expecting them to release a smaller iPhone. But for most of your complaints and the same old complaints that get posted in every Apple thread on HN, Apple doesn’t care…

This comment is even less substantiated than its parent. Intuitively the nerds on HN don't represent the "real customers" of Apple, who as a big company, surely does market research. Yet Apple has gone on record several times claiming to bring products to market that customers don't know they need, eschewing market research. Without posting any reviews or customer data, you assume that there is a large customer deman…

Eh, there are some who do - I’ve never met one in person, but I have seen many online.

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Post by brailsafe »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #261
stevewodil wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a dev and like the touch bar. Ask me anything

1) Would you like a physical function bar as well? 2) Do you use anything to customize the Touchbar to your liking? (I haven't used OS X in quite a while, and haven't heard of anything) 3) How's the rest of your keyboard doing? Do you like it?

I also like the TouchBar and use BetterTouchTool a bit. But the limitation that annoys me is that I can't simultaneously customize it and display app specific context buttons. As in one section customized if a spotify thing is playing, but otherwise make the space available for overriding.

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Post by PopeDotNinja »

tablethnuser wrote: post #20

I've been using the budget Moto G+ line for the past four years. I can upgrade my phone every year around Black Friday and get the latest model for sub $200. The older phones still work well and get handed down to my less tech savvy family members. I'm not really sure what people are paying for when they get those $800+ beasts for phones. When I use a friend's I can tell they are higher quality; either they feel more…

My strategy is similar to yours and I buy a $400 phone every 2 years. In 2017 I got an LG G5, which served me well. This year I got a Google Pixel 3A, which has also been great. I tried phones in the $200 range, but the user experience wasn't quite as pleasant as I cared for.

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Post by AmericanChopper »

linkregister wrote: post #252
AmericanChopper wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They’ve killed the non Touch Bar MacBook Pro, while the industry laments the Touch Bar’s existence. ‘The industry’ is not Apple’s customer. Apple knows who they want their customers to be, and it makes the products that it knows they want. I’m mostly expecting them to release a smaller iPhone. But for most of your complaints and the same old complaints that get posted in every Apple thread on HN, Apple doesn’t care…

This comment is even less substantiated than its parent. Intuitively the nerds on HN don't represent the "real customers" of Apple, who as a big company, surely does market research. Yet Apple has gone on record several times claiming to bring products to market that customers don't know they need, eschewing market research. Without posting any reviews or customer data, you assume that there is a large customer deman…

My comment is substantiated by the millions of MBPs they sell every year. I’ve worked with thousands of people who use MBPs since the touchbar came out, and the only people I’ve ever heard complain about it are online “pundits”. Most people I hear mention it love it. The only alternative explanation is that Apples market research is wrong, and that all sales of MBP since the release of the touchbar have been anomalous. It’s completely obvious how out of touch most Apple commentary is with their market.

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Post by stevewodil »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #261
stevewodil wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a dev and like the touch bar. Ask me anything

1) Would you like a physical function bar as well? 2) Do you use anything to customize the Touchbar to your liking? (I haven't used OS X in quite a while, and haven't heard of anything) 3) How's the rest of your keyboard doing? Do you like it?

1) No, the only one I could see an argument for would be the escape key, but I'm not fussed about that personally, but I also don't live in Vim. Apps also have custom touchbar functions that are more useful than just the function keys in my opinion (you don't have to learn as many keyboard shortcuts for each app).

2) I don't, other than the customization you can do within macOS. I think the only thing that I've really done is remove the Siri shortcut from it.

3) Good so far. I have a 2018 model which has the silicon membrane under the keys and is supposed to be a bit more resilient. One benefit that this whole mess does have is when my battery deteriorates I can get a new one for free by using the keyboard replacement program. At this point if I didn't already have the MacBook I would wait for the next keyboard design to buy one, but personally have not had issues (yet). As far as the typing experience I find it good for short burst typing and the short key travel is generally fine with me, despite using mechanical keyboards elsewhere.

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Post by eyegor »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #278
lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

I've been looking into Linux, but it's a nightmare to get running on a (2018) Macbook Pro. (Older years have better support through community effort). With the introduction of new chipsets, it's made it even more challenging for the OSS community to keep up. My next laptop will likely be not a MacBook, so long as I can get a high-res display.

The starting point for windows laptops with 15.6" 4k screens is ~$1200 nowadays (280 ppi). Current gen macbook pros are 227 ppi. They also cost more, but obv not relevant if you need mac os for some reason.

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Post by 8note »

CDSlice wrote: post #224
lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

Is Apple really not listening to it's customers, or just not listening to a small, vocal subset? I've really only heard complaints about the touchbar from software devs, which are not Apple's main customers. Apple's main customers are creatives and people that want to spend a lot of money for what amounts to a well made (MacBook pro keyboard issues notwithstanding), functional status symbols. Making a smaller, cheape…

requiring an extra adapter to connect you phone to your laptop really goes against the "it just works" creed

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Post by mattmcknight »

old-gregg wrote: post #275

I've been quite happy with my 6s, going to replace the battery again soon. But eventually iOS updates will cease coming, yet I absolutely cannot live without a headphone jack. Honest question: how would you even approach the Android? My smartphone is basically a more mobile extension of my laptop: sending document snapshots directly from the phone's camera to my MacOS desktop, starting iMessage conversations with any…

"Android seems to be designed to run in "I'm an island" mode"

Not at all, if anything it is more flexible, as it syncs cloud first, making what's on your phone accessible through a browser on any device, although with numerous sync programs available on the desktop as well. Scan docs into Google Drive (or dropbox) and the file appears in a synced folder on your laptop. Photos can drop straight into Google Photos. I use Android Messages on the web, can drop a chrome app to the Mac desktop if you want, it is seamless with the phone (and Hangouts still works too). I don't have any need for a shared clipboard, (maybe I use things like Google Keep for that?), but I know you can use pushbullet or the like.

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