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Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by forensic »

etherealG wrote: post #85
fwdbureau wrote: post #78

Call me old fashioned, but I fail to see how implementing a corporate middleman between developers and users can be a progress... OK, from a developer's stand point, this could be really beneficial (distribution, centralization etc), but as a user, it feels like seeing independent record stores about to be crushed by a shiny new Virgin Megastore. I can't help to hope this will be an immense failure

distribution already exists! it's called the internet. fire up a website, have a downloadable app, and you're done. I don't understand why people keep saying the same for "app stores" like iphone and android, and now osx too. why can't I just search for an app on a search engine, goto that apps website, download it and run/install it? how does this system benefit me as a user at all?

I don't trust the cherry picked testimonials on your site.

I don't trust you that your website isn't spam.

I don't trust you with my credit card number.

I don't trust you that your program is well made and follows conventions.

I don't trust you that you won't install a Trojan on my machine.

I don't trust you that you won't put Adware all over.

I don't trust you that your app is bug free and won't ruin the performance on my computer.

But if Apple accepts your app into the app store, I don't have to worry about these things.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by forensic »

igravious wrote: post #258

Why does Apple permanently want the 3 digit security code on the back of my credit card? Shouldn't that be asked for at the time of each payment transaction?

You don't say the same thing about subscriptions do you?

Apple treats it like a subscription. They want one click buying.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by Herring »

forensic wrote: post #280
Herring wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, dragging itself is a chore. I get that he hates the desktop metaphor, but it still needs to be improved. Little things like the cube metaphor & wobbly windows go a long way.

Why is the cube metaphor better than desktop?

I mean it's a good way of representing a set of 4 desktops.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by etherealG »

jokermatt999 wrote: post #231
etherealG wrote: post #85

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distribution already exists! it's called the internet. fire up a website, have a downloadable app, and you're done. I don't understand why people keep saying the same for "app stores" like iphone and android, and now osx too. why can't I just search for an app on a search engine, goto that apps website, download it and run/install it? how does this system benefit me as a user at all?

You don't need it, but it makes things a hell of a lot more convenient. When I run Linux, I don't Google "linux media player", I just search the repository and install things much easier. If I googled "linux media player", I'd have to sort through various unrelated sites (reviews, howtos, spam/malware, old versions on different sites, forums, etc). When I search an app store/repository, I just get exactly what I want…

you make a fair point, making the distribution easier is a nice feature. I still would have preferred a slightly more open approach however. How about defining an installer protocol? like install://url.to.my.servers/my.app.installer.json.or.whatever.format and then my browser could have the app installer for my OS registered on install:// urls. that way the installer format could be cross platform, and not controlled by any 1 company, but still be an easy point-and-click on a website without the hassle of running other things etc?

Then if you want the trust that the verification of apple gives you, you should make sure you only download software from apple.com, but the whole system is still more open and accessible by being online on websites rather than specific to a piece of software running on OSX.

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by alanh »

tvon wrote: post #260
lepht wrote: post #256

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Care to elaborate on the show stopping bugs of Spaces? I use virtual desktops constantly in Linux, but have abandoned Spaces when on the Mac. I haven't really taken the time to distill what isn't 'right' about Spaces, so I'd be curious to hear what others think are the problems with it.

Sometimes a confirmation dialog will popup in a window, and I'm not sure about what conditions cause this, but it gets stuck "between" spaces so you will catch a glimpse of the dialog while switching spaces, but it vanishes once the desktop-changing animation finishes. This is often a blocking dialog, so the app becomes unusable (from memory it's happened with Safari and Dreamweaver). The solution is to stick the mou…

I think the second issue mostly happens when things execute slowly (e.g. with a HDD bottleneck). So something takes focus, then something else completes and takes focus, etc. (I agree it’s terrible, just explaining what I think is happening!)

Re: Mac App Store: Open for Business

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Post by astrange »

Lazlo_Nibble wrote: post #272
astrange wrote: post #92

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File more bugs: http://bugreporter.apple.com/

Registered Apple developers only. Though there's at least one iOS bug that's getting close to being $99 worth of annoying to me (they broke an edge case of "sort album artist" behavior in cover flow a while back -- though I suspect it was on purpose, for efficiency reasons).

"Registered Apple developer" means you need an Apple ID, which is free. You might need to login to the developer site with it first.
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