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An off-grid social network

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Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by zeveb »

JdeBP wrote: post #216
freehunter wrote: post #90

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I think you misunderstand what the phrase "for all intents and purposes" means. It doesn't mean "literally, 100% true" it means "for true enough for this argument". What network does your blockchain run on? It still relies on Comcast to get to my house right? Because you want it to run over the Internet? Maybe you're using AT&T? Probably L3 is in there somewhere, but you're still relying on a centralized piece of equ…

xyr point seems to be that your claim that e-mail addresses are decentralized is faulty. No amount of "Well you are not decentralized in your block chain, either." is going to rebut that. Indeed, it actually reinforces the argument that your claim was faulty, by implicitly agreeing to it with a "but neither are you" response. So perhaps you would like to now explain how e-mail addresses are a system without a centre.…

> xyr point

His point. I am a man.

Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by zeveb »

AljoschaMeyer wrote: post #56
zeveb wrote: post #30

I think that SPKI's name certs would be a good next step for this, so people could associate human-readable petnames with keys. C.f. http://theworld.com/~cme/spki.txt and RFCs 2692 & 2693.

Currently, a user can simply post an `about` message in the stream. Clients will then automatically use this name instead of the key.

What happens if two users post an about message with the same name?

Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by AljoschaMeyer »

zeveb wrote: post #282
AljoschaMeyer wrote: post #56

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Currently, a user can simply post an `about` message in the stream. Clients will then automatically use this name instead of the key.

What happens if two users post an about message with the same name?

In the database there are no conflicts, since everyone is still referred to by hash. The user interface will simply use the same name for both users.

In addition to the self-assigned names, a user can also assign names to other users, using the same about messages. The UI should be smart enough to prefer these customized nicknames. The scuttlebutt website has a nice section on names and identity: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/concepts/identity.html

Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by reitanqild »

ReverseCold wrote: post #257
reitanqild wrote: post #209

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Still not convinced. It doesn't need to be for everyone in the beginning. The early web (when I entered and before) wasn't for everyone. And thats OK for me. Actually I think it is a good way to start.

The problems were solved with centralization.

For this tbing I don't care about those problems.

Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by staltz »

noffle_ wrote: post #217

We also have git over SSB! https://github.com/clehner/git-ssb https://github.com/noffle/git-ssb-intro

This is so awesome that it deserves a separate blog post. I tried to contain some excitement and not expand on it with this blog post, but it's really revolutionary, and super easy to adopt.

Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by stinkytaco »

mr_spothawk wrote: post #268
stinkytaco wrote: post #76

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But I bet Facebook is much larger. If this were to really meet my needs (i.e. people I actually know start using it regularly), I can see this becoming an issue that needs to be solved, especially on mobile. Bitcoin ran into this issue as well, the need for a client to get the whole blockchain. I can see some solutions once cross device identity is done where I get a small amount of the network, perhaps the most rece…

> But I bet Facebook is much larger. Thank goodness Facebook isn't what I want my social feed to look like... all those GIFs and garbage updates. Also, I suppose if you're linking out of the SocialApp and into the Web, that most of the content is just "messages". > then it syncs up with the larger storage on my home PC later. I can hardly wait for devices that work this way.

> Thank goodness Facebook isn't what I want my social feed to look like... all those GIFs and garbage updates.

Sure, but I have few enough friends as is. I know literally no one who would use this, as neat as it is. Bootstraping a social network is hard for both developers and users, but once it gets going, storage requirements would rise fast.

Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by dangerousbeans »

johanneskanybal wrote: post #137
crypt0x wrote: post #110

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> I want future generations to live in a world where 'the internet' isn't a thing that authorities can grant/deny. _THIS_ is very much the spirit of SSB. :)

Did I misunderstand the article or is this only for social feeds? I want headless internet in general, guess it's a common idea these days.

It's kinda like a database which is chill with being incomplete, but you only get bits of this shared database from your friends (and their friends)

But unto this database you can build whatever, like there's a github thing and a soundcloud thing and a facebook thing

Re: An off-grid social network

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Post by dangerousbeans »

ghostwreck wrote: post #248

This is great! Exactly the type of service I would use as someone that avoids centralized social networks. Also wondering, can this be a replacement for Slack? Can I set up a private group chat room? Or can I only use the private @ feature to send private messages to multiple people?

Yeah you can and it works quite well, but is limited to 5 or 7 people or something like that. But 0 metadata about who's involved in the conversation is great, feels way more secret shhhhh
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