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Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by vetinari »

Markoff wrote: post #243
grawlinson wrote: post #2

Here's a better idea - show Microsoft that you don't accept this type of behaviour by switching products/services. I'm aware that Windows 10 is a "free" OS, but trying to ram this type of behaviour down my throat is despicable unethical behaviour and I don't condone it. It is why I've switched to Linux for my daily computing needs.

yeah, if i used my laptop for personal use is no problem bit i doubt there is solid CAT software for Android or Linux which could compete with SDL Trados studio

Do you really use Studio?

Most people I know seem to prefer the old Workbench. Big customers are also switching to web-based tools, where they can, among other thing, track the progress status easily.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by morrbo »

justin66 wrote: post #244
morrbo wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The forced restarts on a server are funny too. As is the feedback information to Microsoft (which iirc can not be turned off completely, only to basic, maybe there is a registry/gpo hack but i havent played with this yet). Can't set the "active hours" to more than 12 hours to prevent restarting when it dictates, so end up disabling the update service entirely which is a complete anti-pattern to what they were trying…

You need to read up on using group policy to change this behavior. It's not reasonable to expect an end user to know about this stuff but if you're really worried about servers, you should already know this. I'm guessing that's why you were downvoted.

I'm fully aware of gpo, thanks. I was more on about the shift from the default of do not update (in server 2012) -> update and restart (as a default in server 2016)

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by morrbo »

Mithaldu wrote: post #235
morrbo wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The forced restarts on a server are funny too. As is the feedback information to Microsoft (which iirc can not be turned off completely, only to basic, maybe there is a registry/gpo hack but i havent played with this yet). Can't set the "active hours" to more than 12 hours to prevent restarting when it dictates, so end up disabling the update service entirely which is a complete anti-pattern to what they were trying…

> The forced restarts on a server are funny too. If you're already using Windows Server, have it serviced by someone trained in it, and you won't see forced restarts. If i can have 100% control of it on my pro system with only out-of-the-box tools, including selection of which updates i want to install and which not, then so can you on the server version.

As i said below i am more on about MS even considering this as a default option for a server environment, not about the lack of control.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by DanBC »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #272
ygaf wrote: post #271

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> Did you read any of it? How weaselly. His conclusion is plain to see: "The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine"

How do you figure that as weasely? You could easily argue that posting a link to a 150+ page forum thread with a dozen serious issues in the OP is misleading when today only one minor issue is outstanding.

One minor issue?

You seem to misunderstand that thread.

If you do a stock install of Ubuntu you'll have very many, showstopping, errors.

If you use a custom script that forces a custom bootloader, custom kernel, and a bunch of other fixes, you end up with a machine that still doesn't have headphone audio and some problems with bluetooth.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by Markoff »

vetinari wrote: post #281
Markoff wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, if i used my laptop for personal use is no problem bit i doubt there is solid CAT software for Android or Linux which could compete with SDL Trados studio

Do you really use Studio? Most people I know seem to prefer the old Workbench. Big customers are also switching to web-based tools, where they can, among other thing, track the progress status easily.

tried few others, they are inferior to SDL Trados Studio, web based tools are also pretty horrible, I currently work on project for major search engine and tool we use is just horrible, I mean the speed, I waste like 30% of my time waiting for response from their server (I have like 150Mb home internet), when it works fast then it's great and I can do a lot of work, but most of the time I have to wait

same goes for another major Chinese phone producer, their virtual phones in browser are just horrible, something I would check even with screenshots and Excel in 30mins take with virtual phone 1.5hour, complete waste of time

I am yet, to experience any web based tool which would be superior for my work compared to offline apps

oh, now that I mentioned it, certain big Japanese phone brand have really nice web tool where you can work superfast no problem 150-200 screenshots per hour including editing and highlighting bugs, but that was only exception to my experience with all other companies

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by funkyy »

Funny that Satya Nadella is praised on HN for his business sense and revolutionary thinking, yet when something like this happens, no one seems to remember about him. He is a CEO, it's his signature that allows this. Think about all Windows 10 spying, stupid updates policy etc. next time you praise him.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by dTal »

H4CK3RM4N wrote: post #147
Pica_soO wrote: post #102

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How hard would it be to replace the ads with instructions to do a parallel Ubuntu install?

Assuming they're on a network you control, probably around as hard as upside-down ternet. Wait, what if you were to redirect the download links for the automatic updates to a Linux installer? Assuming Microsoft's security is still as lax as it was during the XP era, you could get this to work without much difficulty.

Alas, the narrow window of time in which a novice could reasonably be expected to install Linux without undue hassle came to an end with UEFI and SecureBoot.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

DanBC wrote: post #284
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you figure that as weasely? You could easily argue that posting a link to a 150+ page forum thread with a dozen serious issues in the OP is misleading when today only one minor issue is outstanding.

One minor issue? You seem to misunderstand that thread. If you do a stock install of Ubuntu you'll have very many, showstopping, errors. If you use a custom script that forces a custom bootloader, custom kernel, and a bunch of other fixes, you end up with a machine that still doesn't have headphone audio and some problems with bluetooth.

The relevant kernel changes are shipping in 4.11, though. Bluetooth seems to be working according to the latest messages. What's this about a custom bootloader? The other fixes so far as I can tell are pretty easily applied in A self-defeatist attitude won't make this more comfortable. If you don't like that Windows 10 is full of ads and spyware, the time investment to get this laptop working seems pretty small in exchange for a better OS. Throw in a little extra time to get these fixes applied in the form of patches to the relevant projects. If everyone gave up because they can't put a few minutes into troubleshooting and tweaking their setups, Linux will never grow to the threshold necessary to get vendors to support it OOTB.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by Mithaldu »

morrbo wrote: post #283
Mithaldu wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The forced restarts on a server are funny too. If you're already using Windows Server, have it serviced by someone trained in it, and you won't see forced restarts. If i can have 100% control of it on my pro system with only out-of-the-box tools, including selection of which updates i want to install and which not, then so can you on the server version.

As i said below i am more on about MS even considering this as a default option for a server environment, not about the lack of control.

For one: There is no lack of control. I don't know about Home, but from Pro and up you have full and fine-grained control available if you use the correct APIs.

For the other: This is primarily a shift in their philosophy of considering every user someone who would happily endanger the entire internet for their convenience. If you're not the type of person to have received notification of this change as part of your training and/or doesn't double-check it as part of their job duties, they expect you to be the type of person who lets their servers go unpatched and infected by worms sending out spam and DDOS attacks for years.

Mind, they're not saying this out loud, but their actions speak very loud.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by sgift »

grawlinson wrote: post #2

Here's a better idea - show Microsoft that you don't accept this type of behaviour by switching products/services. I'm aware that Windows 10 is a "free" OS, but trying to ram this type of behaviour down my throat is despicable unethical behaviour and I don't condone it. It is why I've switched to Linux for my daily computing needs.

Sure, give me a product which handles all of my use cases (that includes gaming) and I'll switch any minute.
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