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Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by ygaf »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #262
DanBC wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254322 That's a 156 page thread. The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine. And that machine isn't particularly unusual in its class.

I will concede that ASUS laptops tend to take a year or two to sort out. But they do get sorted out - as far as I can tell most of the issues mentioned in that thread are also solved in that thread. Did you read any of it?

> Did you read any of it?

How weaselly. His conclusion is plain to see:

"The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine"

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

ygaf wrote: post #271
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will concede that ASUS laptops tend to take a year or two to sort out. But they do get sorted out - as far as I can tell most of the issues mentioned in that thread are also solved in that thread. Did you read any of it?

> Did you read any of it? How weaselly. His conclusion is plain to see: "The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine"

How do you figure that as weasely? You could easily argue that posting a link to a 150+ page forum thread with a dozen serious issues in the OP is misleading when today only one minor issue is outstanding.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by ygaf »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #272
ygaf wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Did you read any of it? How weaselly. His conclusion is plain to see: "The result? Ubuntu still doesn't fully work on that particular machine"

How do you figure that as weasely? You could easily argue that posting a link to a 150+ page forum thread with a dozen serious issues in the OP is misleading when today only one minor issue is outstanding.

You didn't dispute his conclusion (the topic being whether linux requires 3 trivial fixes max) , settling for undermining his post in general.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by 7952 »

ParkerK wrote: post #158
aphextron wrote: post #17

I'm so divided on Microsoft these days. On the one hand they are doing all the right things in terms of supporting FOSS and making Windows into a truly great OS. But then they pull stuff like this and you remember it's Microsoft. I think this is just the price we are going to pay for "evergreen" operating systems. As a consumer, you now only buy Windows once. Microsoft has to make up for these lost sales so it makes…

>On the one hand they are doing all the right things in terms of supporting FOSS Could always end up as Embrace, extend, extinguish v2.0 - but here's hoping they get it right this time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

The best embrace and extend strategy would be to include lots of FOSS software pre-installed, and have an app store with more open source options. Windows could then be sold as a "batteries included" premium product. The average consumer would have no idea that the software was initially developed by someone else, and why would they even care. It would show a clear advantage over IOs and Android. And it is what a lot of customers actually want.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn »

ygaf wrote: post #273
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you figure that as weasely? You could easily argue that posting a link to a 150+ page forum thread with a dozen serious issues in the OP is misleading when today only one minor issue is outstanding.

You didn't dispute his conclusion (the topic being whether linux requires 3 trivial fixes max) , settling for undermining his post in general.

You're just picking nits here.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by vetinari »

Karunamon wrote: post #187
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #171

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>I run LibreOffice on my Mac and documents ALWAYS render differently than on Word. I always have to proofread on an office computer before I send files out to my colleagues. If you're authoring the documents, you don't need to use docx. Use a more open format that's supported better by both. As for reading documents, who cares if it renders differently? So long as you can read it that's enough. >I literally used Blue…

A more open format? You mean ODF? A niche format that literally only cough free software enthusiasts cough care about? You know what happens when you give someone .ODF in the real world? "Hey, (I can't open this|This looks completely broken), can you resend as doc/docx please?" As for reading documents, who cares if it renders differently? People in enterprise, which accounts for most usage of Office.

> A niche format that literally only cough free software enthusiasts cough care about?

And ISO and Microsoft. Microsoft cared enough about ODF, that they implemented importers and exporters for the MSO.

> "Hey, (I can't open this|This looks completely broken), can you resend as doc/docx please?"

Do you realize that you can open and export ODF formats in the MSO?

> As for reading documents, who cares if it renders differently? > People in enterprise, which accounts for most usage of Office.

They are already used to this - each version or language version of the MSO displays the documents slightly differently. Some layout calculations even depend on the printer driver installed!

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by AsyncAwait »

I again see a lot of outdated comments about Linux here. Not saying there aren't problems, but as somebody who uses macOS every day, it's nothing I haven't experienced on other OSes as well. Give it a shot yourself and make up your own mind.

If you're thinking about switching, I'd recommend you looking past stock Ubuntu, it is no longer the premiere distro in the community, instead consider:

First off, pick supported hardware - you'll do that for Windows and macOS as well. Use known hardware, like Intel, use DELL XPS or system76, it will save you a lot of frustration.

Ubuntu MATE - https://ubuntu-mate.org - If you need the Ubuntu ecosystem, UM offers a more polished experience, if not as much eye candy.

Arch Linux - https://www.archlinux.org - Before you skip this, no it's not unstable, at all, I clock one of my systems at 3+ years without an issue, the rolling release is great and the AUR makes any software just a command away. No fuss, just works.

The ArchWiki is the best resource on all things Linux, it' great.

Fedora - https://getfedora.org - If you want stock GNOME.

KDE - https://neon.kde.org - If you want upstream KDE.

Re: Windows 10 is bringing ads to File Explorer – how to turn them off

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Post by csdreamer7 »

cm2187 wrote: post #211
csdreamer7 wrote: post #197

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You really do not need to learn the command line to use Desktop Linux these days. At least for what most people do. Browsing, office, gaming (with Steam). I would highly encourage you to learn the command line as it is considered a valuable skill on this site. You do not need to learn every obscure program. I often forget how to use quite a few Linux comamnds and just refer to Google or man.

Yeah but a few examples of common things that I can do with a UI with windows but had to edit text files and figure out the syntax in linux: - Setting up a scheduled job - Manipulate the firewall (I don't include third party packages as "UI") - Configuring a website - Changing permissions on a .py file to execute it I also had huge problems a few years ago when the only Linux servers I could rent from OVH had no UI,…

You didn't say system administrator work. From your earlier post I got the impression you were struggling with desktop usage. Alot of people prefer the command line as it gives them more flexibility, especially with Devops (I makes courses for this).

> I also had huge problems a few years ago when the only Linux servers I could rent from OVH had no UI, and I didn't manage to figure out how to install the UI from a command line.

Never heard of OVH. Try Digital Ocean and select their premade options, you can get a fully configured WordPress image from them.

> I'll need to get into Linux. But I find it to be hard work (for someone who does that as a hobby).

I don't know what to tell you. Sounds like you need to take a class or attend a Linuxfest where people will sit down with you and guide you through it.

> ... (I don't include third party packages as "UI")

Keeping UI as optional is deliberate as it reduces the surface attack structure of a Linux system. It also reduces resources with scaling a server farm. This is an important point to understand if you want to learn why Linux (and Unix like) dominates in servers. If you really want a UI, rent a CPanel managed Linux system.

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