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Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

existencebox wrote: post #115
novaleaf wrote: post #89

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They arn't in a prime position to succeed with mobile. Not anymore. That ship sailed 3+ years ago.

Disclaimer: msftie. I don't buy that, despite how much I hear it. there are a few situations I'd agree that if you don't have the first-to-market advantage you're basically fucked (social networking being a prime one, any system where network effect dominates). And while people cite apps as being the "network-effect-esque" factor in this case, I'm not sure I buy that. Looking at data of how many people NEVER use a si…

I love my Lumia 929, but Microsoft has essentially abandoned Verizon, so even I'm having a hard time staying here. (The idea that Microsoft is targeting professional users in the US without Verizon is COMICAL, since Verizon is the number one carrier for enterprise use. Selling to non-Verizon enterprises in the US is basically selling to a non-existent market.)

Windows 10 Mobile currently does have all the apps I need, but it seems very few people are willing to give up Google's apps (particularly Gmail and YouTube) to switch, and Google refuses to allow another competitor into the mobile space. As long as Google's monopoly persists, they'll decide who has a successful mobile platform.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by ssalazar »

jordache wrote: post #120
digi_owl wrote: post #7

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Yeah this seems to aim straight at the complaints that Apple has been ignoring the creative segment of their market.

Apple these days are designed for optimal usage of iTunes and Safari. It is no longer the platform of choice for creative content creation.

Maybe for visual content. The music technology classes I teach are a sea of MacBooks.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by silverlight »

If I could get this screen (along with it working with the pen and the other accessories) but hook it up to my existing desktop I would be all over it. Even if it was still $2,200. But a 980M is just not going to cut it as my primary graphics card...

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Post by digi_owl »

pjmlp wrote: post #233
CountSessine wrote: post #195

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Out of curiosity, what's the use case for cheap win10 netbooks nowadays? When I think of something that has a web browser and a keyboard, the low end of the market seems to be the current crop of Chromebooks, and schools seem to agree - they've been phenomenally popular in education. Typical Win10 netbooks don't have a lot of CPU+GPU grunt, so it doesn't seem to me (maybe you'll correct me) like they'd be very good f…

People that want a computer with a real OS instead of a browser window juggler. I keep seeing references how the low end is using Chromebooks, but that seems to be an US phenomenon. Here in Europe on the area where I live, I only ever seen Chromebooks on sale on a specific chain, and they are seldom there. When they are, they always follow the pattern of being on sale with the usual Google price, people play with it,…

I wonder if the Chromebook issue in Europe is about trusting a foreign company with holding your data.

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Post by chokolad »

Osiris wrote: post #64

The two things that Macbooks have had over Windows laptops, in my opinion, is high resolution screens and a fantastic trackpad. Windows laptops, even on the high end, still tend to screens no better than 1080p and crappy touchpads. My wife hates the touchpad so much she always uses a mouse and has the trackpad disabled. I just got an HP Elite x2, which is basically a Surface Pro and I really like the pen and touch in…

Surface Book has 3000x2000 resolution screen and a fantastic touchpad. Touchpad is on par with MacBook Pro IMHO.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by amyjess »

existencebox wrote: post #115
novaleaf wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They arn't in a prime position to succeed with mobile. Not anymore. That ship sailed 3+ years ago.

Disclaimer: msftie. I don't buy that, despite how much I hear it. there are a few situations I'd agree that if you don't have the first-to-market advantage you're basically fucked (social networking being a prime one, any system where network effect dominates). And while people cite apps as being the "network-effect-esque" factor in this case, I'm not sure I buy that. Looking at data of how many people NEVER use a si…

The problem is that for a lot of us, some apps have become necessary for day-to-day life.

For example, I cannot get around without using Uber and Lyft. I need to carry a phone on me with these apps at all times. Windows doesn't support either of them, so I can't use a Windows phone until it does.

I'd love to use Windows on a phone -- I'm actually starting to fall in love with the new MS -- but I simply can't.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by mixedCase »

porkloin wrote: post #245
rubber_duck wrote: post #227

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Sorry but unless this is a glorified exec office decoration, professionals care about the specs very much, especially at that resolution and price tag

I work in an office of graphic designers, and they all have overpowered hardware that they bought thinking they needed the latest and greatest to run Photoshop and Illustrator. They don't need a breakneck GPU - they need a device like this that gives them new, intuitive input options. That said, for any kind of 3D development this hardware isn't up to snuff. Anyway, the device seems more targeted at 2D graphic design…

They do need high end hardware. They just have much better use for 128GB of RAM than for a GTX 1080.

It's misplaced priorities due to lack of knowledge, not that they don't benefit from high-end hardware.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by 6stringmerc »

KirinDave wrote: post #249
rubber_duck wrote: post #227

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Sorry but unless this is a glorified exec office decoration, professionals care about the specs very much, especially at that resolution and price tag

Hybrid drives are a good call for professional graphic designers and video editors. I have moved my video editing efforts to hybrid drives because of price/space ratios while maintaining performance. Pure SSDs only shine for gaming and compiling, and much more for the former than the later. A machine where you're constantly shuffling for space is no fun.

Count audio as another environment where the hybrid drives make sense when paired with a suitable RAM amount. Nobody wants hiccups...but with the right USB 3.0 soundcard, RAM, and DAW, the output WAV files will stack up. Sure, uploading to cloud or network storage helps, but for general utility the hybrid scratches both performance and space itches.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #172
existencebox wrote: post #115

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Disclaimer: msftie. I don't buy that, despite how much I hear it. there are a few situations I'd agree that if you don't have the first-to-market advantage you're basically fucked (social networking being a prime one, any system where network effect dominates). And while people cite apps as being the "network-effect-esque" factor in this case, I'm not sure I buy that. Looking at data of how many people NEVER use a si…

Arguably true. But the real problem is simpler: consumers don't trust MS. You've inflicted too many false starts, bad products, update nightmares, u-turns, and unplanned obsolescences on the consumer market. MS as a consumer brand has mostly negative/indifferent associations. You could build the best product in the world, but unless you can sell it in reasonable quantities and prove you're committed to supporting con…

I would still rate Microsoft QA above both Google and Apple. Google doesn't believe in QA, they trust automated testing implicitly, and have no preview cycle. The whole fast ring, slow ring, release preview cycle is fantastic as a thing, and knowing my Windows Mobile device is getting day one direct updates from Microsoft, despite being on Verizon's network, is key.

Microsoft has taken some of the wrong lessons from Google though, between forcing cumulative updates and collecting telemetry data. I really hope they figure out that they're losing out there. Being able to claim how many million minutes people were using Edge isn't worth losing so much customer trust.

Re: Microsoft Surface Studio

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Post by digi_owl »

criddell wrote: post #280
stupidcar wrote: post #163

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Microsoft were late to the smartphone OS market, but they were making headway. In 2013 they were back into double digit market share in many countries, and the numbers were heading in the right direction. Then Ballmer left, Nadella took over, and they just... gave up. OK, so they still had a long way to go before they displaced Android. But iOS only has ~30% of the market, and nobody is suggesting Apple give up on mo…

> Microsoft were late to the smartphone OS market, but they were making headway. Late? They were among the first. I also remember Danger OS. Oh - and the Palm Treo.

Indeed. HTC made their name making Windows CE/PocketPC/Mobile devices in the early 2000s.
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