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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…

> Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough'

I like Google Docs as much as the next guy or girl, but I find this hard to believe when we had to end a meeting several minutes into it when the Google Doc displayed an http-500-style error when trying to load a spreadsheet.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

It seems like if MS just doubled down on Windows and Office they'd be in trouble if/when those stopped being so profitable and there are certainly reasons to think they're going to lose ground there (especially with consumer markets, but with business markets too).

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…

> Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough' I like Google Docs as much as the next guy or girl, but I find this hard to believe when we had to end a meeting several minutes into it when the Google Doc displayed an http-500-style error when trying to load a spreadsheet.

If you know what you're doing with Office/use the advanced features there is just no comparison. Office is the Emacs of the business world. But I suppose most people could get on well enough with Google Docs.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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A behemoth doing a pivot, but a pivot to what? And how are they going to monitize it?

Pivoting to becoming more service oriented. Azure/Office365 are their next generation core. Azure as a development target, which pragmatically makes sense as companies with Windows services/apps move to the cloud. And Office365 in the same vein. Not to mention them extending office to other platforms, which combined with Office365 (email) makes a lot of sense. All of that said, outlook integration to office365 is act…

Probably, but the Google Apps sync tool for businesses kinda stinks too. What's better, besides self-hosting?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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tldr; light weight Visual Studio for OSX/Windows/Linux with support for dozens of languages, intellisense (autocomplete), refactoring, debugging (yes, real debugging), git integration and it is free

"Support for" maybe, but it's mainly meant for Javascript/HTML.

I don't think that's accurate, given that C# is also a first-class citizen in terms of features

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

MS realized that the closed source, only running on Win32 platform battle is lost. Their only chance to get a grip of the future if they open up and go for supporting multiple platforms like Java did.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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The description says it's lightweight, but on my machine it uses over 200 MB of RAM with no files open, and appears to be a Chromium-based thing, much like Atom (as others pointed out, it's based on Electron). Meanwhile, Sublime Text is using less than 100 MB of RAM with dozens of files open, some of them quite big. Visual Studio tends to use less memory than this, too. If "the language services [Microsoft] built for…

Notepad uses very little memory; maybe you could use that instead.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even when Microsoft 'Embraced and Extended' Java, it was only on the Windows platform. It was not cross -platform. The whole point of that methodology wasn't to make sure that everyone was using Microsoft-flavoured Java, but to make sure that everyone was using Microsoft-flavoured Java on the Microsoft Windows platform.

It was not cross-platform Cross-platform didn't mean much in 1995. Which other platform was there at the time? Apple was dead in the water. Red Hat had just come into existence. Netscape Navigator 1.0 had just shipped in December 1994.

The fact that Java was device-agnostic due to the JVM is something that Microsoft viewed as a threat. Bill Gates saw Netscape as a threat with their plugin system because of the idea that the OS would just be a shell to the browser which would run programs via plugins. This one of the reasons that they wanted to destroy the Internet. They feared that it would make Windows irrelevant.

"Write once, run everywhere" is a threat to a company whose entire business model is based on "everywhere" being owned by them.

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