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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by kansface »

fmitchell0 wrote: post #122

what am i missing here? a look at their TOS: "The software may collect information about you and your use of the software, and send that to Microsoft. Microsoft may use this information to provide services and improve our products and services. For this pre-release version, users cannot opt out of data collection. Some features in the software may enable collection of data from users of applications you develop using…

I haven't looked through their code, but Atom (which used atom-shell, now electron) actually embeds google analytics in the editor. It uploads commands and file extensions.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by tracker1 »

brador wrote: post #136
fragmede wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…

A behemoth doing a pivot, but a pivot to what? And how are they going to monitize it?

Pivoting to becoming more service oriented. Azure/Office365 are their next generation core. Azure as a development target, which pragmatically makes sense as companies with Windows services/apps move to the cloud. And Office365 in the same vein. Not to mention them extending office to other platforms, which combined with Office365 (email) makes a lot of sense.

All of that said, outlook integration to office365 is actually worse as a mail client than it had been in the past with self-hosted Exchange. Counts don't update properly when you "delete all" from a folder, and even then it's inconsistent. I know it's to allow for better scale/resource control on the servers but it's still very annoying to say the least.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by guelo »

keithwarren wrote: post #24

tldr; light weight Visual Studio for OSX/Windows/Linux with support for dozens of languages, intellisense (autocomplete), refactoring, debugging (yes, real debugging), git integration and it is free

"Support for" maybe, but it's mainly meant for Javascript/HTML.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by LastZactionHero »

Does anyone know how to turn on automatic suggestions for non-supported languages? Syntax highlighting works great for Ruby (not officially supported), and good suggestions appear with "Ctrl-Space", but not automatically. Haven't had much luck with the settings JSON.

Pretty neat, though!

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by sedouard »

octref wrote: post #158

Surprisingly, VS Code handles large files quite well. Just tested it on my Mac opening an uncompressed ember.js (~1.5MB). The file loads instantly and syntax highlighting is done in less than 1 sec. Movement and editing are very responsive. On the other hand, when I open ember.js on Atom, it takes more than 10 sec to load and syntax highlight, and moving & editing take .2 ~ .3 sec to complete.

I've been using it with an ember cli app on OS X for a couple weeks (had pre release access). It's pretty nice some kinks here and there specifically with my tmp folder being giant. But for being what it is now its pretty awesome.

Handles builds and debugging too although it'll take some setup depending on your project type.

They basically took the vs Monaco online browser editor which was already awesome and put it on atom shell/electron for everyone to be able to use natively. Definitely a smart move. Compared to paying $70 for sublime it's a really good deal.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by frik »

krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal":

  When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash 
  dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t 
  want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install 
  this tool.
So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (Source - bottom grey text: https://code.visualstudio.com//#alt-downloads )

Edit: there is only a small "preview" symbol on the top left, beside that no text or screenshot mentions it: https://code.visualstudio.com/

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by tracker1 »

mawburn wrote: post #62
nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

I think they understand that the long run is not in platform dependency.

Actually it is... it's not too different from what it always was. In the past, it was about businesses running "Back Office" versions of servers in the office. Because NAS boxes are now a good enough option in small businesses, and many are moving their hosting into more prominent cloud services, they are positioning Azure to be the platform of choice for windows based services and applications. They've got Office365 to handle the mail server duties people lost moving away from back office. As a small business you no longer need to self-host anything (other than maybe a local NAS box).

I hate sounding like an advertisement for MS, but it really isn't THAT much of a pivot. More adapting to keep those parts of income that used to come from server licenses now as services. Not even mentioning Azure as a target, which is probably the best bet for keeping legacy apps running while transitioning/refactor/rewrite to new generations.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by namelezz »

I was so excited for a moment.

+ Syntax coloring, bracket matching: C++, jade, PHP, Python, XML, Batch, F#, DockerFile, Coffee Script, Java, HandleBars, R, Objective-C, PowerShell, Luna, Visual Basic, Markdown

+ IntelliSense, linting, outline: JavaScript, JSON, HTML, CSS, LESS, SASS

+ Refactoring, find all references: C#, TypeScript

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by davidgerard »

fragmede wrote: post #131
nothrabannosir wrote: post #56

Wow. I seriously don't know what to think anymore. What is their end game? Which platform are they hoping to become / remain dominant in? Don't get me wrong---I'm as happy as the next guy about this. VS is the only tolerable language-dedicated IDE, if they take 25% of their VS engineering mantra to this it will be better than almost anything else. But where does it end? I am clearly so not in touch with my inner mba.…

Windows is becoming irrelevant, Microsoft Office is being supplanted by Google Docs being both free and 'good enough', and worst of all, Microsoft completely missed the boat on mobile. The Microsoft of old would have died out eventually. What we are seeing is not something you see often - a behemoth of a company doing a 'pivot'. What would you do remain relevant in the face of the majority of the internet services no…

Linux owns everything else, but Microsoft still own the corporate - and home - desktop. Devs using Linux or Mac are not the majority of users.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Post by rinon »

frik wrote: post #176
krylon wrote: post #92

Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

Sorry to nick pick but the following download statement is "not optimal": When this tool crashes, we automatically collect crash dumps so we can figure out what went wrong. If you don’t want to send your crash dumps to Microsoft, don't install this tool. So no check box to deactivate this phone-home feature that used to be standard in Microsoft products like Visual Studio, Office and Windows. That's a regression. (So…

I'm hoping this is only while it's in development/beta?
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