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Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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CTO/Co-Founder of Final here. Final is what we built to take back control of our own credit cards for how and when we’re charged, instead of leaving it up to merchants. That led to merchant-specific numbers and limits, managed automatically, as well as transparency in statements. It’s our stake in the ground, a way to shift the culture in credit towards consumer friendliness. Happy to answer questions

Will you be offering cards with any rewards program?

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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a bank reposessing a house and ousting a family is a much more immoral act than being unable to pay for one. moral considerations in interactions with a corporation is foolish

The day that credit becomes a civil right, I move to Mongolia. You pay for what you have; nobody owes you anything. To view a house as some natural right is an upside-down view of the world to me.

natural rights are arbitrary and we decide what they are as a culture. god didn't pass your right to free speech to moses on mount sinai. i'm not arguing for guaranteed credit (as i already oppose capitalism) but i think guaranteed housing is both noble and easily achievable in the developed world

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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we've been in this market for a year or more with masked cards: https://www.abine.com/maskme/features/cards/ basically a better "paypal plugin" for those of you who used that. the principal is tokenization for not just credit cards but email, phone, etc. happy to answer any HN questions..

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I believe most people would say that when they agree to take money with a promise to repay it, they are under a moral obligation to do so.

The bible calls for a debt jubilee - forgiveness of all debts - every seven years. No such thing has happened in hundreds of years. So who acting immorally, again?

It was every 50 years, not 7. And it also stated that prisoners would be freed. We don't actually do everything the bible says to do... thankfully. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(Christianity)

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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The guy in the video is the exact same person in the coin video. https://onlycoin.com/ I'm really pissed off I paid for coin. I'm not going to pay a dime for plastc or this until it's released.

What happened with coin?

Same thing that happens with every hardware startup with launch goals: It's 18 months late.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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> Final lets you give a unique credit card number to every merchant, or a disposable one-time use number for one-off purchases. This is something I have been asking for since forever! People on here claimed it was "impossible" because of how credit cards work, I guess not... > Tired of your monthly yoga pants subscription? Or a two-week "free" trial that lasted four months? Just deactivate that card number. It's that…

Counterpoint. If you get taken to collections over a trivial amount ( Have to go to court for collections? The first words out of your mouth need to be, "Verify the debt." Ask them to produce the document you signed and agreed to. In the vast majority of cases, without this, your case will be dropped with prejudice. This is based on research I did while dealing with a personal mortgage "issue". http://www.thisamerica…

I think it’s just plain unethical and irresponsible to act this way, irrespective of the consequences.

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I'm in the US, and if I were you I'd drop your car insurance provider in a heartbeat. There are so many other options that let me pay online and provide competitive rates, it just is not worth my time (or the chance that I'll forget) to mail checks in every month.

Many banks offer a free service that will write and mail cheques for you every month. Getting a sensible insurance provider is fine too.

That's hilarious. It's like Google inventing the self-driving stagecoach.

Re: Final – A credit card built for the 21st century

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The bible calls for a debt jubilee - forgiveness of all debts - every seven years. No such thing has happened in hundreds of years. So who acting immorally, again?

It was every 50 years, not 7. And it also stated that prisoners would be freed. We don't actually do everything the bible says to do... thankfully. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(Christianity)

There's some ambiguity in the scriptures. See Deuteromy 15:1-11:

"At the end of every seven years you must cancel debts. This is how it is to be done: Every creditor shall cancel the loan he has made to his fellow Israelite. He shall not require payment from his fellow Israelite or brother, because the LORD's time for canceling debts has been proclaimed."

(http://www.biblestudytools.com/deuteronomy/passage.aspx?q=de...)

It's interesting to imagine a world where there was no legal recourse to someone not paying back debt: easy to imagine some first-order consequences, harder to see how it'd change the grand scheme of things. I suspect it would end up being a much better world, but I come from a very anti-debt perspective.

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