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LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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> It's Windows Update that's installing LG crapware upon seeing relevant hardware IDs This is also a misrepresentation. Microsoft has provided LG with a certificate to sign its driver packages with, and allows LG to upload packages to Windows Update, which includes a feature to install sidecar applications. Now, the spirit of this feature is that any application is meant to provide genuine configuration functionality…

My point is not to shift the blame to Microsoft; it's primarily LG that's at fault here. My point here is simply that it's not the monitor that is installing this . Neither the malware nor the URLs to malware exist on the device - they get fetched as part of normal OS-side auto-provisioning, which is the part that was compromised.

Yes, and it's only possible thanks but no thanks to MicroSlop.

And it's not like MS is too poor to do anything useful for their customers. They just don't want to unless the cost-benefit analysis pans out in their favor. The customer is worth as much as their wallet.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Another win for the Linux security model (software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only).

> software installed and updated manually from vetted repos only So something most desktop Linux users don't do.

'desktop Linux' is a term used when the majority of Linux users don't support your argument.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I think the point is that: 1. Yes Windows must have "approved" the drivers 2. Windows Update runs automatically and not (usually) manually 3. Automatic update can't even be disabled, only manually postponed a bit At least 2 and 3 are different on virtually every Linux distro. Also, I find it very unlikely that they would accept such behavior. To give MS the benefit of the doubt here, now that this happened and has be…

https://github.com/raphire/win11debloat This has an option to disable downloading of auxiliary apps when a device is connected. Yes, it's a Windows Update thing. > Prevent Windows from auto-installing device companion apps, like LG Monitor App, Alienware Command Center and more.

Neat codebase, well structured imho.

Here's the thing it does: https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat/blob/master/Regfiles...

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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sudo dkpg -i FileYouDownloadedFromAnywhere.deb

Let's be real, in most cases it is: curl -s script.random-guy.net | sh It is such glaring security hole that there was an old submission about filling such install script with `sleep` commands and detecting it on server side, to send different versions for downloading (and reviewing) and for actual direct execution.

I use those scripts to improve the likelyhood it'll fail to do anything useful.

I even used uname as a fuzzing tool, and that broke builds spectacularly. There's now a more reasonable uname in the sandbox for builds.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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sudo dkpg -i FileYouDownloadedFromAnywhere.deb

Let's be real, in most cases it is: curl -s script.random-guy.net | sh It is such glaring security hole that there was an old submission about filling such install script with `sleep` commands and detecting it on server side, to send different versions for downloading (and reviewing) and for actual direct execution.

the method you describe is clearly only done by people that are irresponsible and most probably stupid.

and no, this is not how most software is installed

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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I'm mostly very happy with my LG C4 as a home theatre centerpiece, and I did have it online so that I could use the apps for YouTube and Jellyfin. However, the lack of support for modern 4k rips (HEVC+DTS) ended up being a dealbreaker and I finally ditched the built in software for a fire stick instead. No transcoding, no weird codec issues, just the raw files direct streamed from the underpowered Unraid box, into th…

There is always android VLC app to decode anything, you just need enough power in chipset to handle that. Not perfect, had some quirks unseen on desktop VLC but generally fine. But yeah external stick is much safer solution, then even tvs like TLC are a great brand.

I had a TCL TV unrelated to the programming language, and the ghosting was awful.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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42% of the apps on LG's platform have these quasi-malware SDKs in them? Seems kinda bad, whether it's due to negligence or just pure incompetence? You'd think there might be legal consequences for a corporation that lets their app store turn into a malware delivery system?

It's all above board though, as you, the user, agreed to the terms & conditions for installing said app. This won't change unless governments create and enforce laws.

Terms and conditions are not the get out of consumer protections free card that you think it is.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Stop buying LG TVs.

Unfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.

>I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet.

We don't need treats this badly.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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Stop buying LG TVs.

Unfortunately they make arguably the best OLEDs and webOS is pretty decent to use (especially compared to the terrible OS that Samsung and Sony run). I think the best thing people can do is update their firmware then disconnect it from the internet. Using an AppleTV or similar provides a better experience than any TVs built in apps anyway.

3 out of 4 OLED screens in my household suffer from burned pixels. It's the early 90s all over again with OLED.

Re: LG to ban residential proxies from smart TV apps

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It's all above board though, as you, the user, agreed to the terms & conditions for installing said app. This won't change unless governments create and enforce laws.

It is, though. Why should I not be able to agree, with sufficiently informed consent, to route traffic through a connection I operate via a computer I own using software I've chosen of my own free will to install? What's the difference between running a Tor exit node and a "residential proxy" except optics? Look: I'm 100% for banning secret proxies that hide from the user, but stopping people knowingly and voluntaril…

We're not talking about people voluntarily installing proxies, we're talking about proxies piggy backing on apps that are marketed for an entirely different purpose.
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