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Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by bwestergard »

mbgerring wrote: post #229

The AI job crisis is large tech employers firing workers to free up cash for AI capex, and those workers competing with everyone else in a competitive job market. I’ve been unemployed and actively looking for a job for about 6 months, the longest stretch of active job searching I’ve ever done in my career. Several close friends who work in tech or tech-adjacent fields are in the same boat. Anecdata on Hacker News or…

I am very sympathetic to your situation, and fear something similar happening to me. But the article is addressed to investors, who are interested in aggregate labor demand declines.

"A chart showing “total number of jobs” is not meaningful."

It is meaningful in answering the question being asked, which is whether the hype around labor displacement, which has been growing for nearly five years now, is actually occurring in a way that would justify some of the higher valuations for AI firms.

The "AI jobs crisis" is generally understood to mean a sustained downturn in demand for all labor due to AI substituting for labor across a huge range of tasks.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by james_marks »

tayo42 wrote: post #249
james_marks wrote: post #162

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In the news I hear about tech layoffs, but I am having a difficult time trying to hire high quality senior SWE's. Perhaps it's not the senior's that were hit by the layoffs, or I'm just looking in the wrong places. The big job sites feel rife with unqualified applicants and outright fraud, leaving me frankly unsure how to proceed. It feels like a crisis of candidates-to-job-openings matching, and AI has made it much…

Is your job remote friendly and what's the pay?

https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rivora/c146a25b-dddb-4ac0-a8c1-c8b3...

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by MoonWalk »

emp17344 wrote: post #233
MoonWalk wrote: post #214

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I think that's coming at it backward. The article lacks data. Nobody should be expected to run around writing the article that's not there. As it stands, it's unsubstantiated junk.

What do you mean the article lacks data? Did you miss the BLS report?

There's no report. This "article" was three sentences and a chart that doesn't even break down crude occupational categories, let alone anything more specific.

Essentially useless.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by tayo42 »

james_marks wrote: post #272
tayo42 wrote: post #249

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Is your job remote friendly and what's the pay?

https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rivora/c146a25b-dddb-4ac0-a8c1-c8b3...

Oh, I'm on the job market, unemployed and probably wont apply becasue of the contract. That's probably your reason for not getting the quality of candidate you're hoping for. that hourly range goes pretty low and doesn't give confidence that a potential employee won't get low balled

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Post by mixmastamyk »

wbl wrote: post #188
packetlost wrote: post #178

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I don't recall there being regular, industry-wide layoffs effecting software engineers for basically the entirety of my career up until the last couple of years. I'm sure my memory is bad and there's data to refute that, but this doesn't feel like "normal" at all.

If your career was entirely post GFC you lived through the good times. The GFC and dot com crash were not good.

I worked straight through the dotcom, ‘08 financial crisis, and covid craziness. But recently haven’t worked in over two years, with nothing on the horizon. Definitely not normal over here.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by sp1982 »

james_marks wrote: post #272
tayo42 wrote: post #249

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Is your job remote friendly and what's the pay?

https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rivora/c146a25b-dddb-4ac0-a8c1-c8b3...

Just a minor suggestion if applicable: My site didn't pick up your listing - Corvi has a direct integration with Ashby. I recommend enabling all of job boards in integrations to get your posting to job search engines beyond popular ones.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by mikrotikker »

txru wrote: post #127
bwestergard wrote: post #97

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The decline in junior hiring began before ChatGPT had wide adoption, so AI is not a likely cause. https://www.employamerica.org/labor-market-analysis/dont-bla... The New York Fed has also released some research suggesting remote work has been a major factor differentially affecting early career workers. https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2026/06/remote... "But then people who work in actual tech companies…

I have a suspicion that Twitter laying off so much of the software staff was very influential for people with hiring abilities. The company didn't crash, and they (relatively slowly) began shipping new features again. I think that coincided with the pandemic-era overhiring, and we've been working against that combo ever since. Every now and then, I actively try to make an LLM replace my tasks, and fully do greenfield…

I thought 80% of those layoffs were bougie HR jobs

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by james_marks »

tayo42 wrote: post #274
james_marks wrote: post #272

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https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rivora/c146a25b-dddb-4ac0-a8c1-c8b3...

Oh, I'm on the job market, unemployed and probably wont apply becasue of the contract. That's probably your reason for not getting the quality of candidate you're hoping for. that hourly range goes pretty low and doesn't give confidence that a potential employee won't get low balled

Thanks for the tip! Ironically it’s the opposite in this case; where we’re willing to exceed the upper bound for the right person.

Your point about the good people self-selecting out makes sense.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by 5701652400 »

jason_oster wrote: post #175
5701652400 wrote: post #72

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that is what CEO of NVIDIA is telling everyone. "everyone is a programmer now".

I don't follow. Aren't you arguing something more like "no one is a programmer now"?

yes. software engineer as a paid profession is going away within couple years.

when everybody can just press a button in elevator, you do not need dedicated paid person to do it.

Re: Where is the AI jobs crisis?

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Post by 5701652400 »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #208
5701652400 wrote: post #44

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don't know whom you talk to. I see people laid of left-and-righ, in FAANG, banks, startup, pretty much everywhere.

I hate to repeat a cliche but correlation != causation

causation can only be expressed within your analytical framework. if it not good, then whole world is a chaos and nothing causes anything. causation is pure interpretation.

correlation is there regadless of what you think of it. correlation is interpretation-free.

point being, simplistic correlation != caustion is a mid-wit position.

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