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I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by cube00 »

getnormality wrote: post #243
cube00 wrote: post #238

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> The thing is basically already done! I'm seeing so many of these come in with "this is 95% done, just need a couple of minor tweaks for production release" "Minor tweaks" being fix the layout so it's not messed up if the browser isn't exactly 1920px wide, sometimes these filters and sorting don't seem to work right and the app doesn't seem to refresh new values properly after an action. No matter the issue it's pre…

Could we hop on a quick call to get a quick status on that quick fix?

Just wanted to check in on how we're tracking, I've booked a quick sync meeting for 4:45pm on Friday followed by a release cadence checkpoint meeting for 9am on Monday.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by Reebz »

discordance wrote: post #2

I’ve been using Claude Design for my front ends. The output looks and feels good enough, but the designs often look very similar and generally adhere to contemporary web tropes. Keen to hear if anyone has had unconventional creative adventures with it.

[Take a look at my portfolio site](https://reebz.com), please view on desktop. This is about 3 weeks of effort to date. It is unfinished, but you get the idea.

Just like SaaS boilerplate from the decade prior, there is LLM boilerplate (since it’s trained on the internet).

So if you put in enough elbow-grease anything is (still) possible!

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by vasco »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #253
ehmorris wrote: post #163

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(I’m the author) making ideas legible and testing them with users is part of the design process regardless of tooling. You can summarize this article as “I find LLMs more effective at making ideas legible vs figma - for the work I’m doing at Jane Street”. This has helped me iterate and it helps me test with users and get better feedback from them. I’m not just prompting “make no design mistakes” over and over.

No matter how nuanced your your workflow is, there are some people on HN that just hate AI and will see it as "slot machine go brr" no matter what you say. It is generally pointless to engage with such people. Great article, by the way.

And there's people that just complain that others don't see enough nuance to everything, applying zero nuance themselves.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by Lalabadie »

make3 wrote: post #257
gwerbin wrote: post #245

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I think the point is that those are the clients you don't want, so you encourage them to select themselves out of working with you. The fact that it might be bad for their own business is not relevant to you as a consultant.

I think it's normal for non-technical people to have no idea of how things work and of what to expect. It's our responsibility to communicate. And, within reason, theirs to listen.

This can only happen if they have reason or motivation to trust the expertise, and an expectation that the relationship can be fruitful.

Like you said, they must at least be willing to listen.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by stemchar »

zuzululu wrote: post #216
DANmode wrote: post #112

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Add a detail on how, and you’re contributing!

"hey codex make me a nice UI" not enough for you ?

Damn prompt engineering has become an art already. No wonder so many people have been left behind.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by ehmorris »

nixpulvis wrote: post #252

Hey Edwin. Glad to see your post pop up. I remember doing a hackathon with you back in like 2012/2013. I think the ability to get to a working prototype faster is very empowering, even if some will be tempted to ship these incomplete ideas. Design and UX needs benefits greatly from being able to play with it, and experience the actual flows beyond just a storyboard and wireframes.

Hi!

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by JasonSage »

firemelt wrote: post #70
JasonSage wrote: post #7

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I've had that experience and I've started testing different prompts and inputs. I find it funny about meeting requirements when you give them, and making safe choices when you don't give direction. So if you're going to rate the output aesthetics and UX/content, but you don't prompt especially much around the aesthetics, you're only getting the safe assumed defaults. It's good at making bootstrap/tailwind clone desig…

any tips for design/aesthetics prompts?

I keep a bookmarks folder of websites that have non-cookie-cutter design.

If I have an aesthetic in mind I'll use some screenshots of those sites in the prompt and phrase their inclusion as: "Look at these slightly non-standard designs that work really well for me." So far I've only seen Claude look for through-lines and high-level takeaways--"user likes based on the screenshots, so I'll include that"--and screenshots aren't currently a granularity level where it can lift specific details or produce something derivative.

Other than that I try to encourage specific consideration of: type scale, borders and rounding, padding/whitespace, elevation as shadow vs blur, colors. I don't think one needs to pull every customization lever on every project.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by MayCXC »

With a vibecoded multiplayer web IDE for our flutter app, I have two nontechnical team members prototype app features from a browser all day. The outcome is a git branch with functional dart code, and a strictly more powerful design prompt than figma make. Claude built its own claude -p harness that communicates with the browser via websocket flawlessly. To use our max subscription after [1] takes effect, we are considering adapting that setup to an approach like [2] instead.

[1] https://x.com/ClaudeDevs/status/2054610152817619388

[2] https://lanes.sh/blog/claude-billing-split

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Post by munksbeer »

josephg wrote: post #42
wartywhoa23 wrote: post #14

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The whole HN is one huge AI ad now.

I think AI programming just has a bliss period for a lot of people where it feels like you can solve every problem with a prompt. And you can, for a time. Eventually the chickens come home to roost and you realise what a mess you made. Give it some time. We’ll figure out what LLMs are good and bad at. I think vibe engineering will eventually go up on the wall next to static vs dynamic typing and vi vs eMacs. At least…

> I think vibe engineering will eventually go up on the wall next to static vs dynamic typing and vi vs eMacs.

What do you mean by "vibe engineering"?

It really depends on what you mean by this on how people can agree or disagree with you.

My guess is that in any sense that you mean it, you're almost certainly wrong. AI coding and engineering will continue to improve until any developer who refuses to use it will be unemployable at corporate gigs, and outcompeted even in freelance stuff.

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