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I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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We already have the business side come with requirements in the form of 'solutions' that they have thought up, which more often than not are Rube Golberg-esque contraptions, that you have to conversationally reverse engineer to arrive at the actual requirements. In the future they will come with their 'ready' solution, already 'working' and be even less receptive to look at design and architecture holistically. Just…

I have seen this already. Vibecoded top to bottom. The downside is that the business people don't understand why you can't just put their app in production as is. And then there's a lot of pressure to make it happen quickly "because we can use AI to move fast". This is going to come down to healthy organization dynamics, and hopefully represents a learning opportunity for leadership. The upside is that the idea has a…

> business people don't understand why you can't just put their app in production

I’d flip that around and say that engineers don’t understand that sometimes you _can_ just put their app into production. It might take some cleanup, and some clever ways of deploying it in isolation, but some of these “vibe coded prototypes” — many made by technical business people (they do exist) – are much closer to production-ready than you might initially assume.

I’d encourage you to challenge your assumptions before dismissing the possibility. I’ve personally seen this workflow produce real production code, used by customers, in an extremely rapid feedback loop. Now is the time to adapt, not push back. Keep an open mind or you’ll be left behind.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Not all countries and their regulatory bodies are equal.

Have you actually looked into the allegations and the response from Jane Street? By your logic companies can commit any fraud in India because if they get caught you can just say: hey cant trust the country.

I have! JS was engaged in standard arbitrage and did nothing wrong. SEBI is coming after them because JS being able to do what it was doing is deeply embarrassing.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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> And to be honest, a LLM could have give me the same response. It could, or it could've hallucinated something :) But then again, I could too, if I smoked enough or fell on my head. Plus it would've produced more CO2 than I did, hopefully :)

> if I smoked enough or fell on my head. Did it hurt, you know, when you fell? The problem here is you're complaining about cult members, then acting like one of the anthrocentric cult members yourself. I agree that we should build a human centered world, but ignoring our many faults won't get us anywhere.

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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> And to be honest, a LLM could have give me the same response. It could, or it could've hallucinated something :) But then again, I could too, if I smoked enough or fell on my head. Plus it would've produced more CO2 than I did, hopefully :)

> if I smoked enough or fell on my head. Did it hurt, you know, when you fell? The problem here is you're complaining about cult members, then acting like one of the anthrocentric cult members yourself. I agree that we should build a human centered world, but ignoring our many faults won't get us anywhere.

I disagree that we should build a human centered world.

We already did that and it's hell for a myriad of other lifeforms.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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I honestly much prefer this to the old way where the only mode of communication was speech or text. I now often understand a lot more holistically what the person coming with their product wants with just a demo + a conversation. Of course you need the person making that vibe product to understand it's just a mockup of their idea and that it'll change. But I would argue this has always been a necessary quality for a…

thats really sad that only way you can understand something is with pictures and demos. like a little toddler. when they already come up with a working model it doesnt really leave any room for abstract thought because now you are in concerte world . They see you as a machine that turns mocks into impls ( maybe you youself see yourself like that). its ok if you see yourself as a code monkey monkey doing menial job of…

What an insane replay.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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Have you actually looked into the allegations and the response from Jane Street? By your logic companies can commit any fraud in India because if they get caught you can just say: hey cant trust the country.

I have! JS was engaged in standard arbitrage and did nothing wrong. SEBI is coming after them because JS being able to do what it was doing is deeply embarrassing.

Standard arbitrage? JS bought stocks worth 572 crores and sold options worth an effective short value of 8,751 crores. 15x more. You dont short 15x your long position to do arbitrage. They were moving the market to suit their positions.

Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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I have seen this already. Vibecoded top to bottom. The downside is that the business people don't understand why you can't just put their app in production as is. And then there's a lot of pressure to make it happen quickly "because we can use AI to move fast". This is going to come down to healthy organization dynamics, and hopefully represents a learning opportunity for leadership. The upside is that the idea has a…

> business people don't understand why you can't just put their app in production I’d flip that around and say that engineers don’t understand that sometimes you _can_ just put their app into production. It might take some cleanup, and some clever ways of deploying it in isolation, but some of these “vibe coded prototypes” — many made by technical business people (they do exist) – are much closer to production-ready…

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Re: I design with Claude more than Figma now

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The code is not meant to be read anymore. That's the mistake. Do you look at generated assembly that comes out of your compiler? You don't. So why are you looking at this code? We have pushed up the abstraction layer.

I catch so much shit when I read the code. I’ll take this into consideration when I’m no longer catching poorly made slop all the time.

that's not the LLM's fault. I iterate and give very specific instructions and my code is really good.
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