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Re: Claude Design

#271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Design is very hard to verbally describe, and AI doesn't have good judgement on what is easy to use or attractive.

I think it's because it's non-deterministic too. You can't iteratively improve design the same way you can code.

If they wanted couldn't they do something like RLHF? Instead of humans picking the best of 2 text outputs, they pick the best rendered design

Re: Claude Design

#273

Interesting! I wrote this approach up (more or less - extract design system -> make templates -> export) some time ago and I've found it unbelievably powerful: https://martinalderson.com/posts/how-to-make-great-looking-c... . I use it all day every day with Claude Code. I sometimes wonder past code if this has had the biggest impact on my day to day productivity, either having to make do with semi-bad looking reports…

>I strongly suspect a lot of their (A/M)RR was coming from extra seats for PMs, developers, etc

their seats system has always been brutal it’s extremely easy to have the seats balloon if you’re not careful and if they’re yearly there is only a 30 day window a year where you can cancel them when the banner to do so appears.

Re: Claude Design

#274
post #30

The more I think about it the more this isn't good for design [EDIT], for a few reasons: - The best design is original, groundbreaking and often counterintuitive. An AI model is incapable of that, it's uninspired, it will absolutely converge to the norm and homogeneity (you see it everywhere now, just scroll on ShowHN and take a look at the UIs) and produce the safest design that appeals to its understanding of the i…

Web design / digital design is a dying field as businesses will start paying one person who does 3 to 4 roles (PM, UX Research, Design and UI Development - tho why use a design tool for web stuff when AI tools generate designs in code), as well now tons of ppl can do this work using AI tools. Further, is the future of digital experiences user interfaces aka the web or will there be an AI Phone where everything is don…

i'm also curious what you're switching to

Re: Claude Design

#275

Lovable was a TailwindCSS recombinator, that’s it. Lately it is more and more ShadCN as well. TailwindCSS is a masterpiece but ironically doesn’t really get its fare share while “Build on top of TW” frameworks make money. TailwindCSS is the final evolution after all other frameworks always had its benefits but also massive limitations. BEM anyone? TW is really elegant a new paradigm in its purest sense and brilliantl…

Am I the only one who doesn't like Tailwind? The way it totally pollutes your html makes it seem like, while the benefits are impressive, they're not worth the collateral damage.

https://htmx.org/essays/locality-of-behaviour/

I'm not a big tailwind fan, but keeping styling in a separate file feels like a net negative

Re: Claude Design

#276
post #68

What’s interesting here is that with AI, all our interfaces should evolve away from previous generation rigid forms / buttons / tables etc. towards something more fluid / dynamic / “natural”. Yet all the AI coding is geared towards producing more of the former.

Do you have examples of "natural" UI that you like?

Re: Claude Design

#277

Interesting! I wrote this approach up (more or less - extract design system -> make templates -> export) some time ago and I've found it unbelievably powerful: https://martinalderson.com/posts/how-to-make-great-looking-c... . I use it all day every day with Claude Code. I sometimes wonder past code if this has had the biggest impact on my day to day productivity, either having to make do with semi-bad looking reports…

I tried Figma again after a few years expecting that they'd surely have a tool that lets me describe a design and then it generates a Figma design file.

Nope. Figma Make first renders an HTML/React app with your design. Then you could convert to a Figma design file if you have a pro plan. Extremely underwhelming.

There's hardly any difference between using Figma and just designing it with Codex and Claude Code. And now, Claude Design seems to get it right.

Re: Claude Design

#278

It really feels like Anthropic's product area is extremely overextended at this point. If they want to extend themselves horizontally in an unlimited fashion, they will need unlimited focus, and agents can't supply that. Things will fall through the cracks. Why should I believe that Anthropic will care about this product in 2, 3 years? Whereas I firmly believe that Figma will care greatly about its product in that ti…

It is officially the 2010 Google era at Anthropic (the era where Google released tons of new products and spread themselves too thin).

Anyone remember Google's social media platform??? Google Plus?

This is a good era to be in! Its the era of product experimentation.

As long as you realize that 90% of the products will not be supported long term if it doesn't contribute to bottom line revenue, then just appreciate it for what it is, a bunch of smart people trying to create useful products.

Just don't be surprised if Anthropic goes the Google route, which is shutting down the majority of the products that are too small / not successful enough to impact their revenue.

Re: Claude Design

#279
I threw my sales deck at it and asked it to implement our brand guidelines (attaching that as a PDF). It did a great job and then began giving me internal server errors... I'm going to assume this part of their model farm is totally overwhelmed.

Re: Claude Design

#280
post #18

I reckon something like this has only been possible to develop because of how homogenous the internet has become in terms of design ever since the glass effect and drop-shadows took over in Web 2.0 and Twitter Bootstrap entered the scene. You'll get a competent UI with little effort but nothing truly unique or mind-blowing. Impressive technology, but that old skool artisanal weirdness of yore only becomes more valuab…

>but nothing truly unique or mind-blowing.

This is most every corporate website.

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