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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

asdff wrote: post #233
Aurornis wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They releasee the iPhone 13 mini for all of the customers who wanted smaller phones It sold very poorly. Despite all of the YouTubers and social media posts calling for smaller iPhones, the real demand for these is very small. The older demographics generally prefer larger phones because they have larger screens, which are better for aging eyes.

It was cannibalized by iphone 12 mini and also se and older iphones still being sold by carriers. All that going on and it still sold millions of units. If it was any other phone manufacturer but apple they'd be happy with those numbers. In fact if it was apple 10 or 15 years ago they'd also probably be happy with those numbers. You also have to understand the psychological profile of us "utilitarian" iphone users. W…

"If it was any other phone manufacturer but apple they'd be happy with those numbers"

That's what sucks about these huge dominant companies. They suppress interesting products because they don't reach the huge sales they need to make a difference to a trillion dollar company. And smaller companies can't compete against these behemoths.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by nixpulvis »

joshstrange wrote: post #11

I'm glad they added MagSafe with this version, that was my biggest "issue" with the 16e. Thankfully you can add a ring to the back of the device to "give" it MagSafe (the magnets part at least, if not the faster charging).

Isn't it nice to have a USB-C port and then use the back panel inductive charging for this?

I don't see why I would want magsafe on my phone at this point.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by Telaneo »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #266
Telaneo wrote: post #262

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I'm not trying to say my way is superior. On the contrary, I'm asking what use cases you have that you are unable to solve. If you have a genuine need to send emails from your phone at a moment's notice, then I can't argue with that; if you can't wait to respond to the emails you receive, there's nothing else to really do about it. That's why I'm asking what needs you have. I'm trying to better understand your situat…

Yes you will if you think most communication personally or even work related is happening via email… You know sending email via mobile has been popular since 2003 right?

> Yes you will if you think most communication personally or even work related is happening via email…

The same principles apply to Slack, Teams or whatever else you may use. I don't do work outside of work hours, so what would I know. Email was just the example I thought of in the moment. Again, I'm asking you a question out of a desire to better understand your situation.

Personal correspondence doesn't take many taps to do. It's rarely more than 25 characters at a time in my experience.

> You know sending email via mobile has been popular since 2003 right?

'sending' and 'popular' are doing some pretty heavy lifting here. Reading, sure, I'll buy that. Sending? I'm not sure sending emails longer than two sentences from any device without a keyboard has ever been popular, for values of. It's probably more popular than ever given that touch keyboards make it reasonably possible, but James S. Casual isn't sending a lot of emails from his phone just through the sheer power of not sending many emails to begin with.

And 'popular' for that matter. Possible, sure, but how many people ever even had a mobile device that could send email before the iPhone came out?

I'm sure sarcasm and implying I'm stupid are great ways to convince your interlocutor, or the unseen masses for that matter.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by esperent »

rootusrootus wrote: post #162
giwook wrote: post #102

I'd love to have a smaller/cheaper phone but I continue to hold onto my Pro from a couple years ago is for the high end camera, particularly the telephoto lens. No, I don't need it all the time. But when you do need it, it's invaluable.

What I would like is a really good single camera. If that's even possible. One thing I find sort of irritating about the multi-camera setup on my iPhone is that using it as a magnifier is often frustrating. Get too close to something and it decides to switch cameras, which then means now you're actually looking at something else entirely. Maybe I'm missing a setting somewhere, I can't be the only person to notice how…

The latest Xiaomi has this, they call it continuous optical zoom. It's the first time I've seen it on a phone camera.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by derefr »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #221
parl_match wrote: post #216

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> I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection That's a bug, not a feature. You don't need to be able to do every task all the time. In fact, it's nice to be able to separate that aspect.

Yes I can just print out directions on Mapquest before I leave home, tell people to page me and I will call them back from the nearest pay phone, carry around my Walkman and my Polaroid camera with me. Have you ever thought that with 80% of web traffic coming from mobile, you might be the outlier? What next? The old Slashdot meme “I haven’t watched TV in 20 years. Do people still watch TV?”

I believe the GP was talking about trying to do “real work” on a phone, which is something many people try to do — but which many others find a repugnant idea, as they currently use the excuse of the impracticality of doing work on a phone as a lever to push back on letting work intrude on their personal life.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by sephamorr »

danielvaughn wrote: post #61
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

The phones get larger and the UI gets less information dense every release. More padding, more offsets, more dead space.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

Telaneo wrote: post #273
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes you will if you think most communication personally or even work related is happening via email… You know sending email via mobile has been popular since 2003 right?

> Yes you will if you think most communication personally or even work related is happening via email… The same principles apply to Slack, Teams or whatever else you may use. I don't do work outside of work hours, so what would I know. Email was just the example I thought of in the moment. Again, I'm asking you a question out of a desire to better understand your situation. Personal correspondence doesn't take many t…

I’m not implying you are stupid. I’m saying straight out that you’re feigning ignorance (ie not that you are ignorant) and you know how the world works in 2026.

Myself personally, I work remotely. I might be running errands during the day and still be monitoring Slack so I can be on a call at 6 or 7 at night with someone in another time zone.

I also travel for work - consulting - and travel personally during the work day and may work after I land. Even if not for work, do you wait to get to your computer to respond to text messages? Check HN?

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by quesera »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #270
quesera wrote: post #268

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Worldwide is not relevant, and mobile-vs-desktop dev is not relevant. Mobile-vs-web dev is probably a better metric. And developed, mature markets only. Anything else introduces the second- and third-generation tech gap inconsistencies.

Yes Japan and S. Korea who led in mobile penetration for decades are poor countries.. Are you really arguing in 2026 about time spent on mobile vs PCs?

This is non-responsive to my comments.

Also, you're being unnecessarily unpleasant in these threads; I wish I had read down further before replying initially, but I'm done now.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by danielvaughn »

sephamorr wrote: post #276
danielvaughn wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People make fun of me but I'll never skip a chance to complain about how large these phones are. I hate it so much. I have a standard iPhone, not a max, and it causes real pain in my wrist if I use it too much. Was honestly thinking about downgrading to the last SE model even though it's several years out of date.

The phones get larger and the UI gets less information dense every release. More padding, more offsets, more dead space.

I'd pay good money for a small phone with nothing but a unix terminal

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

derefr wrote: post #275
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I can just print out directions on Mapquest before I leave home, tell people to page me and I will call them back from the nearest pay phone, carry around my Walkman and my Polaroid camera with me. Have you ever thought that with 80% of web traffic coming from mobile, you might be the outlier? What next? The old Slashdot meme “I haven’t watched TV in 20 years. Do people still watch TV?”

I believe the GP was talking about trying to do “real work” on a phone, which is something many people try to do — but which many others find a repugnant idea, as they currently use the excuse of the impracticality of doing work on a phone as a lever to push back on letting work intrude on their personal life.

Have you thought that a lot people work remotely and don’t sit at their desk all day? I have deliverables and deadlines to meet like everyone else. But sometime I would rather go for a swim in the middle of the day in the heated pool when the sun is still out - benefit of living in Florida in the winter - and work late and be contactable (wearing my watch) or go to the gym during the day (downstairs). Business traveling is also a thing (much less than I use to), working with people in different time zones where I’m not going to refuse to answer a message from a coworker in India if they need me.

It’s a fair trade off. My company gives me a lot of leeway during the day and I am flexible about time zones.

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