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Ryanair fined €256M over ‘abusive strategy’ to limit ticket sales by OTAs

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Re: Ryanair fined €256M over ‘abusive strategy’ to limit ticket sales by OTAs

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You don't think people were ripping each other off in the '90s? How old a saying is caveat emptor ?

> How old a saying is caveat emptor? Old enough to learn that it's a sociopathic stance that has no business in a well-functioning society. You're arguing in favor of what's essentially a scam.

No not arguing in favor of it, more pointing out that it's nothing new. People have been scamming each other forever.

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This isn't anything new though. Been like that for the last 15 years at least. Always pay in the local currency (your bank/visa/mastercard will give you a better rate then the merchant)

Very true, but the other half is to ensure you don’t use a card with a foreign transaction fee, which will cost you 3-4%. There are free cards like the Amazon Prime Visa that don’t have it, but that fee is very common. The other thing I hate to see is people using the currency conversion desks at airports, or buying foreign currency from their banks in advance of trips. They give you awful rates. Assuming you’re trav…

Careful with random ATMs, some are scamtms.

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When you fly you feel like you're playing Russian roulette, many times over. The flying experience is trash. RyanAir may be the worst, but just by a little. At least they fly on time and they seem to know what they're doing. Then in the Netherlands you pay 30€ in airport tax for a 39€ ticket. Yet they fine RyanAir, not themselves ;)

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Sometimes you ARE forced to fly with them. Some airports have contracts with them etc etc

It is a ridiculous claim. It is always a choice, you are not really forced to fly in any case. If you do want to fly, or have a very strong reason to, there are other means of transports, or flying to different airpots if you really want to avoid Ryanair.

I've traveled all over Europe; Ryanair and other low cost European carriers were never on my list.

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This disappeared a few months ago for me, unfortunately.

Why do you say unfortunately? Are you saying PayPal now doesn’t allow you to pay directly in the foreign currency and let your bank convert?

Correct.

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The funny part is how most OTAs are pretty awful with addons themselves. I know for a fact that certain OTAs will sell tickets at a loss hoping you trip up on one of their checkboxes, like the 15€ automatic checkin service many offer. I just now booked a ticket on gotogate, paid 80 euro and received a receipt from ITA airways for 120 euro. They apparently lost 40 euro on this sale, I only had to click "no" on about 1…

Go To Gate are on my ban list personally for awful behaviour when a flight was cancelled.

I feel that a lot of OTAs will just not refund you when a flight is cancelled, especially if it's not one of the more reputable ones. Is that what happened here? How did you fix it?

In my case in 2020 I had to request my refund via PayPal for Vayama

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I actually wonder how much traffic they lose this way. My employer doesn't allow me to book with them because the agent doesn't list them. Even though I want to go to Cambridge, quite annoying.

If your job is paying, why do you complain?

Late reply: because noone else flys to Stansted directly at that time. And via Heathrow is another 2h extra.

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> I don't love the dark patterns, but believe the CEO when he says they are basically traps that enable the low prices for the people that don't fall for them. I don't know what to respond to this. Are you saying you're fine with other people falling for the dark patterns if that allows for a cheaper ticket for you?

Yes, they've always had a model of "people in the know" being subsidized by others. Didn't pre-print out your ticket? 100 euro fine. Your bag is too large at the gate? Same thing. It's the airline of Compound Interest- "He who understands it, earns it... he who doesn't... pays it" An airline that isn't purely catered to the rich, but to those who are intelligent, knowledgeable, and don't mind the lack of frills. It's…

I guess we'll have to wait till it's your parents they screw over.
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