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Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by Noaidi »

knotimpressed wrote: post #91
Noaidi wrote: post #51

I am wondering if Apple's focus is off lately with this drive for AI. So far all they are showing in that presentation is that I can have "the ability to transform 2D photos into spatial scenes in the Photos app, or generating a Persona — operate with greater speed and efficiency." And by making Apple AI (which is something I do not use for many reasons, but mainly because of Climate Change) their focus, I am afraid…

Assuming you've read https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversa... or the longer full essay/related works, could you elaborate on why you don't use Apple Intelligence? I totally understand why someone would refuse to use it due to environmental reasons (amongst others) but I'm curious to hear your opinions on it.

Some commenters already answered for me. To me there is no real use benefit. I am rather a simple user and it seems to take up space on the phone as well. I refuse to use iCloud so space is important to me since photography is what I do the most.

Also, I like researching things old school how I learned in college because I think it leads to unintended discoveries.

I do not trust the source you linked to. It is an organization buried under organizations for which I cannot seem to find their funding source after looking for a good 15 minutes this morning. It led me back to https://ev.org/ where I found out one guy used to work for "Bain and Company", a consulting firm, and was associated with FTX funding:

https://oxfordclarion.uk/wytham-abbey-and-the-end-of-the-eff...

Besides "Effective Altruism" makes no sense to me. Altruism is Altruism IMO.

Altruism: unselfish regard for or devotion to the welfare of others

There is no way to be ineffective at altruism. The more you have to think about altruism the further you get from it.

But the organization stinks as some kind of tech propaganda arm to me.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by JKCalhoun »

toddmorey wrote: post #6

The modern Apple feels like their hardware teams way outperforming the software teams.

There has to be a whole different mindset with hardware though. Every change has to necessarily be more considered, cross-checked. And I don't say this in any way to disparage software engineers (hold up hand) but I suspect there's a discipline in hardware design that is ... less rigidly adhered to in software design. (And a software update containing a revert, though undesirable, is always a solution.)

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by xedrac »

lenkite wrote: post #222
mikepurvis wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sixteen years ago, John Gruber wrote: > Hardware and software both matter, and Apple’s history shows that there’s a good argument to be made for developing integrated hardware and software. But if you asked me which matters more, I wouldn’t hesitate to say software. All things considered I’d much prefer a PC running Mac OS X to a Mac running Windows. https://daringfireball.net/2009/11/the_os_opportunity At the time I…

Windows would have beat MacOS only if Microsoft had just done one small, teeny-weeny thing - just left the OS alone after Win 10.

I haven't been able to stomach Windows since Vista, and I can barely stomach MacOS. Linux has spoiled me.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by asdhtjkujh »

jon-wood wrote: post #122

> Apple 2030 is the company’s ambitious plan to be carbon neutral across its entire footprint by the end of this decade by reducing product emissions from their three biggest sources: materials, electricity, and transportation. But never, ever, through not shipping incremental hardware bumps every year regardless of whether there's anything really worth shipping.

Very few people are buying a new machine every year, even when the updates (like this year) are arguably more than incremental — selling outdated hardware that will become obsolete sooner is not more environmentally-friendly.

Hardware longevity and quality are probably the least valid criticisms of the current Macbook lineup. Most of the industry produces future landfill at an alarming rate.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by thewebguyd »

butlike wrote: post #172
torben-friis wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are talks of the hardware head replacing Cook. Hopefully that will bring whatever they’re doing right to other teams.

I really liked the energy of the guy who announced the iPhone Air this past WWDC or whatever it's called now. John Ternus. Hopefully he makes it there (CEO) one day; I'd like to see it.

Ternus is who the parent was referring to, he's SVP of hardware engineering and suspected to be Cook's successor.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by lotsofpulp »

mikepurvis wrote: post #80
linguae wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not the first time this has happened in Apple’s history. The transition from the 68k architecture to the PowerPC brought major performance improvements, but Apple’s software didn’t take full advantage of it. If I remember correctly, even after the PowerPC switch, core elements of the classic Mac OS still ran in emulation as late as Mac OS 9. Additionally, the classic Mac OS lacked protected memory and preempt…

Sixteen years ago, John Gruber wrote: > Hardware and software both matter, and Apple’s history shows that there’s a good argument to be made for developing integrated hardware and software. But if you asked me which matters more, I wouldn’t hesitate to say software. All things considered I’d much prefer a PC running Mac OS X to a Mac running Windows. https://daringfireball.net/2009/11/the_os_opportunity At the time I…

Seeing my wife have to deal with BSOD and tedious restarts for Windows updates and myriad just to use Teams/Excel makes me think the software issues are far worse on the Windows side.

Not once in 10 years have I had ti troubleshoot while she uses her personal macOS, but a Dell Latitude laptop in 2025 still can’t just “open lid, work, close lid”.

And it’s slower. And eats more battery.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by placatedmayhem »

speedgoose wrote: post #245
kokada wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tahoe however makes my M1 Air feel sluggish doing the exact same tasks ive been last couple of years. I have a work provided M2 Pro with 32GB of RAM. After the Tahoe upgrade it feels like one of the sluggish PCs at the house. It is the only one that I can see the mouse teleporting sometimes when I move it fast. This is after disabling transparency in Accessibility settings mind you, it was even worse before.

Do you have a few electron powered apps that didn’t get updated yet? Electron used to override a private function that makes the Mac OS sluggish on Tahoe, and apparently no one uses Electron apps while doing testing at Apple.

The check script I've been recommending is here:

https://github.com/tkafka/detect-electron-apps-on-mac

About half of the apps I use regularly have been fixed. Some might never be fixed, though...

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by SCdF »

toddmorey wrote: post #6

The modern Apple feels like their hardware teams way outperforming the software teams.

I don't think it's the modern Apple, I think that's just Apple.

I remember using iTunes when fixing the name of an album was a modal blocking function that had to write to each and every MP3, one by one, in the slowest write I have ever experienced in updating file metadata. Give me a magnetised needle and a steady hand and I could have done it faster.

A long time ago they had some pretty cool design guides, and the visual design has often been nice, but other than that I don't think their software has been notable for its quality.

Re: Apple M5 chip

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Post by superkuh »

I know it's only shared system RAM and not VRAM, but the M5's 150GB/s isn't going to be very fast when doing AI inference. A fairly old rtx 3060 12GB does 360GB/s. But I guess quantity is a quality all of it's own when it comes to RAM and inference.
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